Ordinarily I would agree with you I prefer consensus politics to Yah boo politics. In this case though I don't see how there can be an consensus, you can't be a little bit pregnant.

We either stay in the EU or we leave with or without a deal. As this was voted for by a majority you have to go with their wishes. Anything else is not democratic.

The democratic solution is once we leave for those who wish to Remain they should campaign to re-join.

This is one of those times when you can't fudge it, May tried that and failed miserably as nobody liked her deal.

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Or take out citizenship of another EU country and then expect to be treated differently.

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The compromise must surely be leaving with a deal that means that the expectations that caused most of the leavers to vote as they did are satisfied to some degree, whilst some of the reasons that the remainers voted as they did are retained.

This is what Parliament, as a whole, are trying to achieve. I completely understand the frustration over how long it's taking and why yet another delay makes people upset, especially when you believe, as so many do here, that just coming out on WTO terms will be fine anyway. However Parliament, and many others, disagree and think that we need to continue to strive to make sure we don't do ourselves avoidable harm. Just giving up ought not be an option just because you are fed up with trying. Losers do that.

What the current, minority, government is now doing isn't too different to what Cameron did in 2016. He was looking over his shoulders in fear at what Farage might do to the Tory party and so is Johnson. Our country's future is too important to be buried under internal Tory party politics.

Those that wish to reverse the decision entirely do so only on the basis that they will have established a clear mandate that the people as a whole have changed their minds in the intervening period. As you argue much the same thing with your suggestion that we could apply to rejoin if that is the will of the people I cannot really see why you would object to that. I think it is extremely unlikely to happen and is, in practice, a negotiating position.

Therefore we all need to support Parliament and encourage them to find a deal we can all live with. Who knows? Johnson might yet be able to find a form of words that enables the backstop to be dressed in new clothes that satisfy both sides and Parliament can vote through. However, Labour politics might well then get in the way and would have to wait until a GE dumps them out of the picture.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Brexit is vehicle to power for Johnson Cummins and his sordid bunch of non-elected goons, and a get rich quick scheme for Lord Snooty and his pals.

Send a van round to the rear of 10 Downing St., load them up and ship them out, never to be seen again.

Democracy DDR style......

At least women will be safer.

I wonder if Newcastle United players will be receiving death threats after Steve Bruce said last night that they "surrendered" as according to some (mainly Labour) MPs that evil word is a precursor to violence

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