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ghosteagle Flag 20 Mar 15 2.45pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 2.43pm

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Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 10.18am

All we see in the news now are problems directly related to immigrants and their offspring. This was totally predictable. If the financial benefit is so hard to demonstrate, it is surely a policy that was more trouble that it is worth. It is totally out of control.

The bottom line is that Britain's politics and culture is being altered by a ever growing minority of ethnic population. We need to recognise that. There are a multitude of problems in the pipeline.

There are so many elephants in this room that it has become a circus.

You think that all of our problems are because of immigrants? Well that sounds like a convenient thing to believe doesn't it.


Where did I say all our problems are because of immigrants ?

I would say that many of Britain's current problems like domestic terrorism, violent crime levels, housing shortages, medical care shortages, religious and cultural division would all be far less significant if immigration had been curtailed . Some would not exist at all, like honour killings, people trafficking, slavery, fake marriages,forced marriages etc

No one white wants to talk about it

Edited by TheJudge (20 Mar 2015 2.14pm)

No one wants to talk to you. Or your tinfoil hat.

That's the spirit.
Of course you don't need a tinfoil hat when your head's in the sand.

Who said that?? Is that you Enoch??

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 20 Mar 15 2.58pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Quote ghosteagle at 20 Mar 2015 2.45pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 2.43pm

Quote ghosteagle at 20 Mar 2015 2.21pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 2.13pm

Quote imbored at 20 Mar 2015 12.19pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 10.18am

All we see in the news now are problems directly related to immigrants and their offspring. This was totally predictable. If the financial benefit is so hard to demonstrate, it is surely a policy that was more trouble that it is worth. It is totally out of control.

The bottom line is that Britain's politics and culture is being altered by a ever growing minority of ethnic population. We need to recognise that. There are a multitude of problems in the pipeline.

There are so many elephants in this room that it has become a circus.

You think that all of our problems are because of immigrants? Well that sounds like a convenient thing to believe doesn't it.


Where did I say all our problems are because of immigrants ?

I would say that many of Britain's current problems like domestic terrorism, violent crime levels, housing shortages, medical care shortages, religious and cultural division would all be far less significant if immigration had been curtailed . Some would not exist at all, like honour killings, people trafficking, slavery, fake marriages,forced marriages etc

No one white wants to talk about it

Edited by TheJudge (20 Mar 2015 2.14pm)

No one wants to talk to you. Or your tinfoil hat.

That's the spirit.
Of course you don't need a tinfoil hat when your head's in the sand.

Who said that?? Is that you Enoch??


Standard answer............Don't mention the war(or Immigration)

 


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ghosteagle Flag 20 Mar 15 3.29pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote elgrande at 20 Mar 2015 2.58pm

Quote ghosteagle at 20 Mar 2015 2.45pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 2.43pm

Quote ghosteagle at 20 Mar 2015 2.21pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 2.13pm

Quote imbored at 20 Mar 2015 12.19pm

Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 10.18am

All we see in the news now are problems directly related to immigrants and their offspring. This was totally predictable. If the financial benefit is so hard to demonstrate, it is surely a policy that was more trouble that it is worth. It is totally out of control.

The bottom line is that Britain's politics and culture is being altered by a ever growing minority of ethnic population. We need to recognise that. There are a multitude of problems in the pipeline.

There are so many elephants in this room that it has become a circus.

You think that all of our problems are because of immigrants? Well that sounds like a convenient thing to believe doesn't it.


Where did I say all our problems are because of immigrants ?

I would say that many of Britain's current problems like domestic terrorism, violent crime levels, housing shortages, medical care shortages, religious and cultural division would all be far less significant if immigration had been curtailed . Some would not exist at all, like honour killings, people trafficking, slavery, fake marriages,forced marriages etc

No one white wants to talk about it

Edited by TheJudge (20 Mar 2015 2.14pm)

No one wants to talk to you. Or your tinfoil hat.

That's the spirit.
Of course you don't need a tinfoil hat when your head's in the sand.

Who said that?? Is that you Enoch??


Standard answer............Don't mention the war(or Immigration)

Basil? Basil?!!?

 

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 20 Mar 15 6.46pm

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Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm


Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest. It's not our bank just as the Federal Reserve is not the Americans bank. Privately owned and raping the public for years. ''Carlsberg don't lend money, but if they did..............''

We'll never be out of debt.

Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube.

The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public". But the Bank of England is not. It was nationalised after the war and it "belongs" to the government.

Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do.

And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest."

[Link]

The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away).

sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post.

The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or...

Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities.

This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc.

This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies.

For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers.

rant over..

at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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matt_himself Flag Matataland 21 Mar 15 10.43am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote pefwin at 20 Mar 2015 6.46pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 20 Mar 2015 10.39am

Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm


Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest. It's not our bank just as the Federal Reserve is not the Americans bank. Privately owned and raping the public for years. ''Carlsberg don't lend money, but if they did..............''

But still ukip
We'll never be out of debt.

Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube.

The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public". But the Bank of England is not. It was nationalised after the war and it "belongs" to the government.

Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do.

And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest."

[Link]

The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away).

sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post.

The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or...

Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities.

This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc.

This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies.

For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers.

rant over..

at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism.

But still ukip are ar 14% in the polls. Double that of the effing Greens,

Does that hurt you Peffers? The fact that 14% of the country refuses to submit to your PC nazism?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 21 Mar 15 5.52pm

Quote matt_himself at 21 Mar 2015 10.43am

Quote pefwin at 20 Mar 2015 6.46pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 20 Mar 2015 10.39am

Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm


Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest. It's not our bank just as the Federal Reserve is not the Americans bank. Privately owned and raping the public for years. ''Carlsberg don't lend money, but if they did..............''

But still ukip
We'll never be out of debt.

Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube.

The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public". But the Bank of England is not. It was nationalised after the war and it "belongs" to the government.

Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do.

And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest."

[Link]

The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away).

sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post.

The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or...

Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities.

This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc.

This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies.

For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers.

rant over..

at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism.

But still ukip are ar 14% in the polls. Double that of the effing Greens,

Does that hurt you Peffers? The fact that 14% of the country refuses to submit to your PC nazism?

Never been called a NAZI before, odd coming from you, but then again I expect you know what one would look like.

As for UKIP, I suppose it is 14 times the vote the NF used to get that doesn't hurt but is worrying.

It says something for the curtain twitchers, nimbys, and jobs worth that support the core activists of closet racists and fraudsters.

I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories.

Personally I'll not thank you or your like for the Lab/SNP pact that we will have after the election.

 


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"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Quote pefwin at 21 Mar 2015 5.52pm

Quote matt_himself at 21 Mar 2015 10.43am

Quote pefwin at 20 Mar 2015 6.46pm

Quote Johnny Eagles at 20 Mar 2015 10.39am

Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm


Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest. It's not our bank just as the Federal Reserve is not the Americans bank. Privately owned and raping the public for years. ''Carlsberg don't lend money, but if they did..............''

But still ukip
We'll never be out of debt.

Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube.

The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public". But the Bank of England is not. It was nationalised after the war and it "belongs" to the government.

Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do.

And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest."

[Link]

The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away).

sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post.

The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or...

Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities.

This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc.

This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies.

For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers.

rant over..

at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism.

But still ukip are ar 14% in the polls. Double that of the effing Greens,

Does that hurt you Peffers? The fact that 14% of the country refuses to submit to your PC nazism?

Never been called a NAZI before, odd coming from you, but then again I expect you know what one would look like.

As for UKIP, I suppose it is 14 times the vote the NF used to get that doesn't hurt but is worrying.

It says something for the curtain twitchers, nimbys, and jobs worth that support the core activists of closet racists and fraudsters.

I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories.

Personally I'll not thank you or your like for the Lab/SNP pact that we will have after the election.


Interesting thoughts there. It's all the fault of 'my sort' that we will have a hung parliament. Despite the fact that Scotland voting for the SNP is the single largest deciding factor in the upcoming electiion. I am simply exercising my democratic right to vote for whomever I believe.deserves my vote.

You appear to want the Tories the win despite your PC facism.

You are pathetic Peffers.

 


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Hoof Hearted 22 Mar 15 9.14am

Quote pefwin at 21 Mar 2015 5.52pm

I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories.


I think no party has had so many REPORTED scandals, but UKIP are under intense scrutiny from all sides.

Behind the scenes, the likes of Rifkind and Straw's colleagues are getting away with the usual political incentives and sleaze safe in the knowledge that the media are only really interested in what Farage and Co are up to.

 

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Mar 2015 9.14am

Quote pefwin at 21 Mar 2015 5.52pm

I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories.


I think no party has had so many REPORTED scandals, but UKIP are under intense scrutiny from all sides.

Behind the scenes, the likes of Rifkind and Straw's colleagues are getting away with the usual political incentives and sleaze safe in the knowledge that the media are only really interested in what Farage and Co are up to.


Not so sure Hoof, I think UKIP are actually insulated to some degree from the run of the mill 'foot in mouth' scandals that seems to be par for the course currently, in that their voters don't really care. It would take a monumental scandal involving Farage for the whole edifice to come tumbling down.

See the fuss today over the Asian Tory in cahoots with the EDL (allegedly), its the same for all of them TBH.

 


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The left wing media are obsessed with attacking the right...Unfortunately I'm starting to accept that the BBC is just so infected with left of centre bias that it can't ever recover a balance....I can't take any of the left's complaints about the Daily Mail seriously anymore as their own media is just as bad.

 


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It would be hilarious if disaffected Tories and UKIP voters helped Nige get his 15% but, ironically, handed the keys to Downing Street to Labour and the very leftie-pc people they so abhor in doing so.

Tragic comedy gold that

 


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Quote Kermit8 at 22 Mar 2015 6.25pm

It would be hilarious if disaffected Tories and UKIP voters helped Nige get his 15% but, ironically, handed the keys to Downing Street to Labour and the very leftie-pc people they so abhor in doing so.

Tragic comedy gold that

There's a reasonable chance of a minority Tory government being kept in power by a pact with Ukip.

That would be tragic comedy gold right back at yea Kermy.

 


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