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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 23 4.32pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The problem when trying to be even handed is that however unsavoury the true far right have been at times, they have, by and large, been right about their predictions regarding immigration. Now I appreciate that only the fully loaded models have a brain, but that applies to the Far Left, radical Muslims or BLM just the same. The other difference is that British Nationalists present a negligible risk to 99.9% of the British public. Radical Muslims plot to destroy our country and kill us whereas the former want to protect us from fifth columnists and foreign terrorists. However fair minded one is, it is rather impractical to sit on the fence or play Switzerland on this subject. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Nov 2023 1.10pm) What’s the evidence for either of these claims? Radical Islamists appear to be driven by a total belief in an extreme version of their faith. I don’t think, in their minds, they seek to destroy our country. They seek to cleanse it and save it. They, of course must first be resisted and then re-educated. The far right are not so very different. They believe in an extreme ideology which they convinced themselves we need to all adopt if we are to survive. The solution is identical. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 23 4.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The problem when trying to be even handed is that however unsavoury the true far right have been at times, they have, by and large, been right about their predictions regarding immigration.

Now I appreciate that only the fully loaded models have a brain, but that applies to the Far Left, radical Muslims or BLM just the same.

The other difference is that British Nationalists present a negligible risk to 99.9% of the British public.
Radical Muslims plot to destroy our country and kill us whereas the former want to protect us from fifth columnists and foreign terrorists.
However fair minded one is, it is rather impractical to sit on the fence or play Switzerland on this subject.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (30 Nov 2023 1.10pm)

What’s the evidence for either of these claims?

Radical Islamists appear to be driven by a total belief in an extreme version of their faith. I don’t think, in their minds, they seek to destroy our country. They seek to cleanse it and save it. They, of course must first be resisted and then re-educated.

The far right are not so very different. They believe in an extreme ideology which they convinced themselves we need to all adopt if we are to survive. The solution is identical.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 30 Nov 23 4.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What’s the evidence for either of these claims? Radical Islamists appear to be driven by a total belief in an extreme version of their faith. I don’t think, in their minds, they seek to destroy our country. They seek to cleanse it and save it. They, of course must first be resisted and then re-educated. The far right are not so very different. They believe in an extreme ideology which they convinced themselves we need to all adopt if we are to survive. The solution is identical. Have you ever seen any radical Islamic speeches? Obviously not.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What’s the evidence for either of these claims?

The far right are not so very different. They believe in an extreme ideology which they convinced themselves we need to all adopt if we are to survive. The solution is identical.

Have you ever seen any radical Islamic speeches?

Obviously not.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 23 5.23pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Have you ever seen any radical Islamic speeches? Obviously not. So no answer then! What a surprise. Just another daft question. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 23 5.23pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Have you ever seen any radical Islamic speeches?

Obviously not.

So no answer then! What a surprise.

Just another daft question.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Teddy Eagle 30 Nov 23 5.33pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What’s the evidence for either of these claims? Radical Islamists appear to be driven by a total belief in an extreme version of their faith. I don’t think, in their minds, they seek to destroy our country. They seek to cleanse it and save it. They, of course must first be resisted and then re-educated. The far right are not so very different. They believe in an extreme ideology which they convinced themselves we need to all adopt if we are to survive. The solution is identical. What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it?
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Teddy Eagle

30 Nov 23 5.33pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What’s the evidence for either of these claims?

The far right are not so very different. They believe in an extreme ideology which they convinced themselves we need to all adopt if we are to survive. The solution is identical.

What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it?

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Glazier#1 30 Nov 23 6.44pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it? Depends who you ask. Many who think our empire was a force for good would say we did very well cleansing and saving with missionaries in the vanguard. Others would be not so sure. The latter are usually referred to as 'This country haters'. Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Nov 2023 6.45pm)
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30 Nov 23 6.44pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it?

Depends who you ask. Many who think our empire was a force for good would say we did very well cleansing and saving with missionaries in the vanguard. Others would be not so sure. The latter are usually referred to as 'This country haters'.

Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Nov 2023 6.45pm)

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Teddy Eagle 30 Nov 23 6.54pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Depends who you ask. Many who think our empire was a force for good would say we did very well cleansing and saving with missionaries in the vanguard. Others would be not so sure. The latter are usually referred to as 'This country haters'. Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Nov 2023 6.45pm) Not just the UK either - European countries generally were keen on that sort of thing. It was, however, a long time ago and would likely be more keenly resisted now.
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Teddy Eagle

30 Nov 23 6.54pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Edited by Glazier#1 (30 Nov 2023 6.45pm)

Not just the UK either - European countries generally were keen on that sort of thing. It was, however, a long time ago and would likely be more keenly resisted now.

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cryrst The garden of England 30 Nov 23 7.34pm
Originally posted by BrentisBack The problem is, that unless you share the same radical views as those on the far right, then you are as good as an enemy to them. Herein lies the danger. It’s not just me saying this, the home office agrees saying that the rise in far right terrorism is on an alarming rise in this construction and poses a considerable threat. I’ll still get labelled as work or a lefty for repeating this. Which again, is a problem. Go on then you want to link all the far right attacks. I’m sure it’s the worst terrorism on the planet so fill ya boots.
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The garden of England 30 Nov 23 7.34pm

Originally posted by BrentisBack

The problem is, that unless you share the same radical views as those on the far right, then you are as good as an enemy to them. Herein lies the danger. It’s not just me saying this, the home office agrees saying that the rise in far right terrorism is on an alarming rise in this construction and poses a considerable threat.
I’ll still get labelled as work or a lefty for repeating this. Which again, is a problem.

Go on then you want to link all the far right attacks. I’m sure it’s the worst terrorism on the planet so fill ya boots.

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BrentisBack Beckenham 30 Nov 23 8.40pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it? I take it you’ve not been to Benidorm then?
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Beckenham 30 Nov 23 8.40pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it?

I take it you’ve not been to Benidorm then?

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BrentisBack Beckenham 30 Nov 23 8.43pm
Originally posted by cryrst Go on then you want to link all the far right attacks. I’m sure it’s the worst terrorism on the planet so fill ya boots. The far right have killed millions more than Islamic fundamentalists. You haven’t really thought this one through have you.
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Beckenham 30 Nov 23 8.43pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Go on then you want to link all the far right attacks. I’m sure it’s the worst terrorism on the planet so fill ya boots.

The far right have killed millions more than Islamic fundamentalists. You haven’t really thought this one through have you.

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Teddy Eagle 30 Nov 23 8.48pm
Originally posted by BrentisBack The far right have killed millions more than Islamic fundamentalists. You haven’t really thought this one through have you. And the far left have killed many, many millions more than that. Two cheeks of the same arse.
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Teddy Eagle

30 Nov 23 8.48pm

Originally posted by BrentisBack

The far right have killed millions more than Islamic fundamentalists. You haven’t really thought this one through have you.

And the far left have killed many, many millions more than that. Two cheeks of the same arse.

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BrentisBack Beckenham 30 Nov 23 9.09pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And the far left have killed many, many millions more than that. Two cheeks of the same arse. Give an example of the far left doing that please? And don’t try to be clever with the socialist party name. As we know that was only a name given to sound electable. If you will please……
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Beckenham 30 Nov 23 9.09pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And the far left have killed many, many millions more than that. Two cheeks of the same arse.

Give an example of the far left doing that please? And don’t try to be clever with the socialist party name. As we know that was only a name given to sound electable.
If you will please……

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 23 9.18pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it? Exposure to our culture, patience, determination, effort and love. Given by everybody under an overarching principle that acceptance of our standards and the rule of law is something expected of everyone who lives in our country. That means no one has the right, whatever their personal convictions, to attempt to cleanse and save us in any way that conflicts with our standards or the rule of law. That applies equally to all. Whatever their religion or lack of one. I also want no school to be run by any religious organisation, or to teach religion. I want to see religion completely removed from the public square and confined to the home and places of worship. People have the right to hold and celebrate their beliefs but others also have the right not to have to witness them. In short carrot and stick. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 30 Nov 23 9.18pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

What form should this reeducation take and whom would be responsible for it? How would it go if anyone here moved to another country and set about cleansing and saving it?

Exposure to our culture, patience, determination, effort and love. Given by everybody under an overarching principle that acceptance of our standards and the rule of law is something expected of everyone who lives in our country.

That means no one has the right, whatever their personal convictions, to attempt to cleanse and save us in any way that conflicts with our standards or the rule of law. That applies equally to all. Whatever their religion or lack of one.

I also want no school to be run by any religious organisation, or to teach religion. I want to see religion completely removed from the public square and confined to the home and places of worship. People have the right to hold and celebrate their beliefs but others also have the right not to have to witness them.

In short carrot and stick.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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