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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Oct 22 9.24am | |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Pincher! Lowers the tone even for football fans CP. The role of 'wind up merchant' whilst not entertaining still serves some purpose but I'd certainly appreciate it if childish name calling or a consistent usage of such was not a feature.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 22 9.39am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It's even worse for Truss. Joey Barton liked her speech. She says nothing, and says that very badly. Everyone who doubts that her 'growth x 3' will actually produce any economic growth, is now a part of the 'anti-growth' coalition joining Putin, the financial markets, the voters as if it's any of their business, and probably most of the conservative party itself. 'Getting Britain moving' probably refers to mortgage payers being repossessed and moving out of their properties.
The trouble with a so called correction in the housing market is that people get done over and rich people scoop up the bargains. Unfortunately most of the budget is geared up for this, and not only this but at a bad time for people, and I do mean the vast majority. The Conservative party is the party of home ownership, or was. Now it is if you’re loaded, but if not, you should be in city finance while preferably shorting the pound while in the know. If they did this all better and once the heating costs aren’t such a big concern on top of everything else. As it is she’s driving the bus into the debt collectors after she’s chucked whoever she can under it to excuse herself. And I thought Theresa May was bad.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 22 9.41am | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I thought that a bit odd seeing as though only 7% of the electorate voted for the Green party. Or as the kids say "rubber glue back at you". Tbf, what was the uk percentage voting for Truss? Edited by Rudi Hedman (06 Oct 2022 9.41am)
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 06 Oct 22 12.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Tbf, what was the uk percentage voting for Truss? Edited by Rudi Hedman (06 Oct 2022 9.41am) 57% of the 172,000 people eligible voted for Truss ... I think that was about 81,000 people who have private health insurance and don't have mortgages. The number of people eligible to vote in the UK is more than 40 million. She does NOT have a mandate to change policies implemented by Oaf Boris who won the last election with 43% of the total votes cast. She would never have got into office under normal circumstances. Her mismanagement of OUR economy, however, should set the Tory party back a generation in terms of public support. Edited by Henry of Peckham (06 Oct 2022 12.11pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 22 12.09pm | |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
57% of 172,000 people voted for Truss ... I think that was about 81,000 people who have private health insurance and don't have mortgages. The number of people eligible to vote in the UK is more than 40 million. She does NOT have a mandate to change policies implemented by Oaf Boris who won the last election with 43% of the votes cast. Yes. But a lot of it is down to timing imo. Her small cheering crowd are too thick to realise or admit it, and my god are they thick. They’re either too thick to be able to think with 2-3 or more variables in their heads or they refuse to and think everyone else is thick enough or at their intelligence level.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 22 12.15pm | |
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The whole ‘anti growth coalition’ party promotion and team huddle. Does this have any credibility with the public, or does it just appeal to Truss’s Twitter tw@ts? I mean, are any of the groups & political parties ‘anti growth?’ Or is it another pathetic and immature failure? If they’re going to point fingers then at least make it honest and accurate or people just think you’re trying to claim they’re just sh1tterr then your sh1t.
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 06 Oct 22 12.16pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes. But a lot of it is down to timing imo. Her small cheering crowd are too thick to realise or admit it, and my god are they thick. They’re either too thick to be able to think with 2-3 or more variables in their heads or they refuse to and think everyone else is thick enough or at their intelligence level. I think the moron vote didn't ask enough questions. They thought she was an Oaf Boris lacky and sided with her to vote against Rishi. She was a chronically useless Chief Secretary in the Treasury but it gave her enough knowledge to sack all those she knew would obstruct her daft policies.
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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 06 Oct 22 12.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
The whole ‘anti growth coalition’ party promotion and team huddle. Does this have any credibility with the public, or does it just appeal to Truss’s Twitter tw@ts? I mean, are any of the groups & political parties ‘anti growth?’ Or is it another pathetic and immature failure? If they’re going to point fingers then at least make it honest and accurate or people just think you’re trying to claim they’re just sh1tterr then your sh1t. Nothing against growth and our statistics show we were doing worse than others. We then have to go back to look at how ill prepared we were for Brexit and the consequences of Putin's war as well as unfortunate to experience the Pandemic. Her timing is absurd.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Oct 22 12.34pm | |
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The central theme of Liz Truss' speech was that she was committed to growth and committed to getting the barriers to growth out of the way.Many of those barriers require supply-side reform that is not going to be easy to get past a rebellious Tory party. I was at 'Conference' and engaged in numerous conversations which elucidated an array of opinions. Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2022 1.31pm)
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Oct 22 12.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Henry of Peckham
Nothing against growth and our statistics show we were doing worse than others. We then have to go back to look at how ill prepared we were for Brexit and the consequences of Putin's war as well as unfortunate to experience the Pandemic. Her timing is absurd. One particular amusing piece she’s used is her experiences in the ‘80s and ‘90s, in education, during, erm, a conservative government and local conservative MP’s. Did she not think that through at all? She didn’t bother having any knowledge of the region of Ukraine and its borders before flying there during government work so none of it should be a surprise. She strikes me as someone who reacts to a need, but not before, because that’s way beyond her, and probably so is after the event.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Oct 22 1.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
The central theme of Liz Truss' speech was that she was committed to growth and committed to getting the barriers to growth out of the way.Many of those barriers require supply-side reform that is not going to be easy to get past a rebellious Tory party. I was at 'Conference' and engaged in numerous conversations which elucidated an array of opinions. Edited by Willo (06 Oct 2022 1.31pm) So you were among that sea of stupidity, clapping and cheering the most disastrous PM I can ever recall? Didn't anyone feel the need to distance themselves in public, to try to repair the damage they have inflicted on us? Is anyone yet putting their hands up and admitting they have made a mistake? Is anyone yet accepting that choosing a PM this way is the fastest way to create a gulf between the party and the voters? The Tory Party is on a slide to oblivion unless they connect again to ordinary people. Johnson, despite his many faults, understood this. As the Labour Party also forgot it, it will be the party who remember it again quicker than the other, who stand any chance of forming the next government on their own. Labour are at least trying.
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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Oct 22 1.47pm | |
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There aren't any actual tax cuts (except for the very wealthy) in the budget anyway. This is because the tax thresholds have been frozen for four years not indexed to inflation as has been the practice. It's actually a 'nice little earner' for the treasury. Your 1£ tax gain is actually costing you £2. Reading the FT it is generally forecast that the UK economy will contract next year and we will be in a long recession with stagflation. Truss has introduced a cost of borrowing crisis where there was none, every household will have to pay eventually with zero gain to anybody.
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