Darren lewis on the wireless said he doubts footballers understand that blm is partly political and are just doing it because hey think it's about anti racism.
There are accountants teachers and all sorts of educations on those pitches.
Troy deeney who himself is well educated either ignored it or was too afraid to pick him up on it.
So now the excuse is footballers are thick!

I don’t think it takes much indoctrination to realise that racism is bad.

It's certainly generated discussion but I think you are unfair on kick it out.

- When was the last time you heard racist chanting at a football match in England? You get the occasional idiot both clubs condemn it the police investigate and they are nearly always caught, banned by the club and face criminal sanctions.

- Teams are integrated around 30% are non white they are well paid and respected by fans. Yesterday our 5 goals were made and scored by black players I've not heard anyone complaining about that it simply doesn't happen at football now.

- The sports media treat racism seriously unlike the rest of the world.

Apart from the lack of black managers which is another whole topic* there are no barriers in football apart from talent, in fact football can be proud of itself.

A lot of this can be down to Kick it out educating the public especially the younger generations.

If players still feel there is a problem they should speak out with specifics and be prepared to engage and defend their position not try and shut down the debate.

*I don't believe racism is the reason why there are not many black managers.

True, but I choose to largely ignore your posts rather than actively boo them.

That's all well and good but there have been numerous instances of racial abuse, both at the game and online. Wilf has received endless abuse and has been public in sharing it to see exactly what he has to put up with.

Why should they have to not make a stand just because you don't like to see politics in football? The cause is unfortunately as valid as ever.

I am sure Wilf dislikes the racist abuse he gets more than you dislike seeing him take a knee for a few seconds before a game.

The reason they "took the knee" was solely to demonstrate solidarity with the movement started in the USA which had become a universally recognised symbol. As the Premiership gets shown all over the world the players weren't aiming their gesture at a small bunch of supporters on a South London web forum but a huge worldwide audience, including many in the USA, Africa and Asia.

We might well recognise something else better and have more sympathy with it, but would it have the same impact?