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Stirlingsays 19 Mar 19 8.07am
Originally posted by dollardays and don't forget 'crabs in a bucket'!! lol. '3/5ths' mentality. I'm glad to see you've used humour in reply rather than activating your pincers. Must be those good genes! Edited by dollardays (18 Mar 2019 7.21pm) What kind of adult still uses 'lol'? 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

19 Mar 19 8.07am

Originally posted by dollardays

and don't forget 'crabs in a bucket'!! lol. '3/5ths' mentality. I'm glad to see you've used humour in reply rather than activating your pincers. Must be those good genes!

Edited by dollardays (18 Mar 2019 7.21pm)

What kind of adult still uses 'lol'?

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Stirlingsays 19 Mar 19 8.13am
Originally posted by madcap_v2 I don't have time to sit on this forum all day so I chose to respond to the wildest part of your post. Ive never heard someone have a scale of quality within a race. Maybe I don't understand what you're saying. Not sure I want to, absolutely bizarre You never, 'heard someone have a scale of quality within a race'? Well, the word 'scale' was originally your word. As for your difficulty with the 'quality' concept being applied to groups....I find that hard to believe because you made it so obvious that you supported the idea of a 'black history' museum. A situation where you wish to discriminate on race as to what is included within a museum....Yet...me merely mentioning the idea that we can discriminate on behaviour within a group is suddenly so surprising to you. So I regard this as word play on your part. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 8.23am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Mar 19 8.13am

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I don't have time to sit on this forum all day so I chose to respond to the wildest part of your post. Ive never heard someone have a scale of quality within a race. Maybe I don't understand what you're saying. Not sure I want to, absolutely bizarre

You never, 'heard someone have a scale of quality within a race'?

Well, the word 'scale' was originally your word.

As for your difficulty with the 'quality' concept being applied to groups....I find that hard to believe because you made it so obvious that you supported the idea of a 'black history' museum. A situation where you wish to discriminate on race as to what is included within a museum....Yet...me merely mentioning the idea that we can discriminate on behaviour within a group is suddenly so surprising to you.

So I regard this as word play on your part.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 8.23am)

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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 19 Mar 19 11.52am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You never, 'heard someone have a scale of quality within a race'? Well, the word 'scale' was originally your word. As for your difficulty with the 'quality' concept being applied to groups....I find that hard to believe because you made it so obvious that you supported the idea of a 'black history' museum. A situation where you wish to discriminate on race as to what is included within a museum....Yet...me merely mentioning the idea that we can discriminate on behaviour within a group is suddenly so surprising to you. So I regard this as word play on your part. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 8.23am) A very, very wild misinterpretation of what I was saying in that thread. Simply, I believe 'black history' to be of importance, a sub-sector of history that isn't taught very well and is something that people genuinely want to know about. Where have I said anything discriminatory regarding what a museum includes? People of all races have a right to be properly educated on all facets of history and black history is misrepresented, or at least was when I was in school. I would suggest you actually read my posts if aiming to dissect them to prove some sort of ill-conceived, imaginary point in your mind. And no, I haven't ever heard of a scale within races, I take people as they come. It sounds very "he's alright for a black man" to me. Odd. La la la your mum
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SE25 / Ibiza 19 Mar 19 11.52am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You never, 'heard someone have a scale of quality within a race'?

Well, the word 'scale' was originally your word.

As for your difficulty with the 'quality' concept being applied to groups....I find that hard to believe because you made it so obvious that you supported the idea of a 'black history' museum. A situation where you wish to discriminate on race as to what is included within a museum....Yet...me merely mentioning the idea that we can discriminate on behaviour within a group is suddenly so surprising to you.

So I regard this as word play on your part.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 8.23am)

A very, very wild misinterpretation of what I was saying in that thread. Simply, I believe 'black history' to be of importance, a sub-sector of history that isn't taught very well and is something that people genuinely want to know about.

Where have I said anything discriminatory regarding what a museum includes? People of all races have a right to be properly educated on all facets of history and black history is misrepresented, or at least was when I was in school.

I would suggest you actually read my posts if aiming to dissect them to prove some sort of ill-conceived, imaginary point in your mind.

And no, I haven't ever heard of a scale within races, I take people as they come. It sounds very "he's alright for a black man" to me. Odd.

La la la your mum

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Stirlingsays 19 Mar 19 12.11pm
Originally posted by madcap_v2 A very, very wild misinterpretation of what I was saying in that thread. Simply, I believe 'black history' to be of importance, a sub-sector of history that isn't taught very well and is something that people genuinely want to know about. Where have I said anything discriminatory regarding what a museum includes? People of all races have a right to be properly educated on all facets of history and black history is misrepresented, or at least was when I was in school. I would suggest you actually read my posts if aiming to dissect them to prove some sort of ill-conceived, imaginary point in your mind. And no, I haven't ever heard of a scale within races, I take people as they come. It sounds very "he's alright for a black man" to me. Odd. You specifically argued for a 'black history' museum....with arguments, which while I'm not convinced on...were I thought perfectly respectable positions which deserve consideration. Under your basis I think such ideas could happen. That said, I think the point here.....that you don't like this idea of discrimination within a racial group is perhaps you being a bit sensitive. The point was just that.....a reality that all groups can be measured this way and indeed are....which is why these statistics exist - to allow some type of judgement to be made....and in reality that's exactly what society does to all of us....forms judgements in its snakes and ladders treatment. It just doesn't make it overtly explicit....outside of qualifications and promotions. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 12.12pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Mar 19 12.11pm

Originally posted by madcap_v2

I would suggest you actually read my posts if aiming to dissect them to prove some sort of ill-conceived, imaginary point in your mind.

And no, I haven't ever heard of a scale within races, I take people as they come. It sounds very "he's alright for a black man" to me. Odd.

You specifically argued for a 'black history' museum....with arguments, which while I'm not convinced on...were I thought perfectly respectable positions which deserve consideration. Under your basis I think such ideas could happen.

That said, I think the point here.....that you don't like this idea of discrimination within a racial group is perhaps you being a bit sensitive. The point was just that.....a reality that all groups can be measured this way and indeed are....which is why these statistics exist - to allow some type of judgement to be made....and in reality that's exactly what society does to all of us....forms judgements in its snakes and ladders treatment.

It just doesn't make it overtly explicit....outside of qualifications and promotions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 12.12pm)

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Teddy Eagle 19 Mar 19 12.46pm
There’s nothing wrong with the concept of a museum of black history but who are the intended visitors? The internet has made information easily available to anyone interested and it seems unlikely that young men are going to put their knives away after a school trip to a museum. The history I learned at school was 20th Century world history which covered Germany, Italy, Spain, America, Russia and China. Notably not British history. In common with a lot of history teachers in the early 70’s ours was a raging Marxist.
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19 Mar 19 12.46pm

There’s nothing wrong with the concept of a museum of black history but who are the intended visitors? The internet has made information easily available to anyone interested and it seems unlikely that young men are going to put their knives away after a school trip to a museum.
The history I learned at school was 20th Century world history which covered Germany, Italy, Spain, America, Russia and China. Notably not British history. In common with a lot of history teachers in the early 70’s ours was a raging Marxist.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 19 Mar 19 2.15pm
‘Quality blacks’ was probably a bit of a lazy typing faux pas when something more like ‘Societally responsible’ or ‘higher achieving’ or ‘example setting’ black people could’ve have been used. I can’t remember the point not being made and in question but i think it was something along those lines. I’d put it down to that rather than accusations it was some kind of sign Stirlingsays sees black people as sn inferior sub species or something. The problem could really be pointed at there being lack of character in most in and around this knife problem and any that are of character give them a wide berth. Then there are black people completely away from it who are of course gifted or intelligent. COYP
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Caterham 19 Mar 19 2.15pm

‘Quality blacks’ was probably a bit of a lazy typing faux pas when something more like ‘Societally responsible’ or ‘higher achieving’ or ‘example setting’ black people could’ve have been used. I can’t remember the point not being made and in question but i think it was something along those lines.

I’d put it down to that rather than accusations it was some kind of sign Stirlingsays sees black people as sn inferior sub species or something.

The problem could really be pointed at there being lack of character in most in and around this knife problem and any that are of character give them a wide berth. Then there are black people completely away from it who are of course gifted or intelligent.

COYP

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Stirlingsays 19 Mar 19 2.23pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman ‘Quality blacks’ was probably a bit of a lazy typing faux pas when something more like ‘Societally responsible’ or ‘higher achieving’ or ‘example setting’ black people could’ve have been used. I can’t remember the point not being made and in question but i think it was something along those lines. I’d put it down to that rather than accusations it was some kind of sign Stirlingsays sees black people as sn inferior sub species or something. The problem could really be pointed at there being lack of character in most in and around this knife problem and any that are of character give them a wide berth. Then there are black people completely away from it who are of course gifted or intelligent. It's a good point.....I suppose I could have written it better but I'm obviously not the sensitive type. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Mar 19 2.23pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I’d put it down to that rather than accusations it was some kind of sign Stirlingsays sees black people as sn inferior sub species or something.

It's a good point.....I suppose I could have written it better but I'm obviously not the sensitive type.

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Invalid user 2019 19 Mar 19 2.33pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Faint praise indeed.....there must be many thousands recorded. The reality is that the number of quality blacks within the community is nowhere near high enough to overcome the influence of ghetto culture amongst its youth. Rap music (and yes it has perfectly respectable forms) has been a contributor to that culture. The community constantly blames external forces for its lack of success but the reality is that it creates an environment like crabs in a bucket. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Mar 2019 10.56am) In the NZ mass terrorist thread you were all "You have no right to belittle their preference for their own in group because of your ideology" and delusions of saving the day "If this guy listened to me, he certainly wouldn't be murdering anyone. He'd never listen to someone telling him his identity doesn't matter." Before proceeding to post very racially lopsided videos that say he did what he did because his 'birthright was taken away'. Softly softly with someone who killed 50 people, affronted by what you conjured up in your head as attacks on both his and your racial identity in my reply, and how I had no right to my view. Being that you hold such tremendous sensitivity around your own racial identity, and appear to be seeing a future where we largely split on racial lines again, it's surely not much to ask that you extend basic consideration of others by not squaring up to one of the few non white members here by bemoaning the lack of 'quality blacks', referring to the community's environment as 'crabs in a bucket' and trying to shut him down with 'playing the' race card when he highlights your crass distillation of the qualities of a different racial 'identity'. You've played the whole pack. He responded to you in a dignified fashion and with humour and you had a further pop. Cathartic was it? Edited by dollardays (19 Mar 2019 3.29pm)
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19 Mar 19 2.33pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Faint praise indeed.....there must be many thousands recorded.

The reality is that the number of quality blacks within the community is nowhere near high enough to overcome the influence of ghetto culture amongst its youth. Rap music (and yes it has perfectly respectable forms) has been a contributor to that culture.

The community constantly blames external forces for its lack of success but the reality is that it creates an environment like crabs in a bucket.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Mar 2019 10.56am)

In the NZ mass terrorist thread you were all "You have no right to belittle their preference for their own in group because of your ideology" and delusions of saving the day "If this guy listened to me, he certainly wouldn't be murdering anyone. He'd never listen to someone telling him his identity doesn't matter." Before proceeding to post very racially lopsided videos that say he did what he did because his 'birthright was taken away'. Softly softly with someone who killed 50 people, affronted by what you conjured up in your head as attacks on both his and your racial identity in my reply, and how I had no right to my view.

Being that you hold such tremendous sensitivity around your own racial identity, and appear to be seeing a future where we largely split on racial lines again, it's surely not much to ask that you extend basic consideration of others by not squaring up to one of the few non white members here by bemoaning the lack of 'quality blacks', referring to the community's environment as 'crabs in a bucket' and trying to shut him down with 'playing the' race card when he highlights your crass distillation of the qualities of a different racial 'identity'. You've played the whole pack. He responded to you in a dignified fashion and with humour and you had a further pop. Cathartic was it?

Edited by dollardays (19 Mar 2019 3.29pm)

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Invalid user 2019 19 Mar 19 2.39pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays What kind of adult still uses 'lol'? What kind of adult threatens or offers up physical violence against multiple members of the board when he doesn't like what they have to say? You have a lot to say about impulse control along racial lines. Try working on your own.
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19 Mar 19 2.39pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What kind of adult still uses 'lol'?

What kind of adult threatens or offers up physical violence against multiple members of the board when he doesn't like what they have to say? You have a lot to say about impulse control along racial lines. Try working on your own.

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Pussay Patrol 19 Mar 19 3.38pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman ‘Quality blacks’ was probably a bit of a lazy typing faux pas when something more like ‘Societally responsible’ or ‘higher achieving’ or ‘example setting’ black people could’ve have been used. I can’t remember the point not being made and in question but i think it was something along those lines. I’d put it down to that rather than accusations it was some kind of sign Stirlingsays sees black people as sn inferior sub species or something. The problem could really be pointed at there being lack of character in most in and around this knife problem and any that are of character give them a wide berth. Then there are black people completely away from it who are of course gifted or intelligent. Yeah but the masked slipped when it was revealed they follow white supremacy groups on twitter Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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19 Mar 19 3.38pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I’d put it down to that rather than accusations it was some kind of sign Stirlingsays sees black people as sn inferior sub species or something.

Yeah but the masked slipped when it was revealed they follow white supremacy groups on twitter

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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Stirlingsays 19 Mar 19 4.08pm
Originally posted by dollardays In the NZ mass terrorist thread you were all "You have no right to belittle their preference for their own in group because of your ideology" and delusions of saving the day "If this guy listened to me, he certainly wouldn't be murdering anyone. He'd never listen to someone telling him his identity doesn't matter." Before proceeding to post very racially lopsided videos that say he did what he did because his 'birthright was taken away'. Softly softly with someone who killed 50 people, affronted by what you conjured up in your head as attacks on both his and your racial identity in my reply, and how I had no right to my view. Being that you hold such tremendous sensitivity around your own racial identity, and appear to be seeing a future where we largely split on racial lines again, it's surely not much to ask that you extend basic consideration of others by not squaring up to one of the few non white members here by bemoaning the lack of 'quality blacks', referring to the community's environment as 'crabs in a bucket' and trying to shut him down with 'playing the' race card when he highlights your crass distillation of the qualities of a different racial 'identity'. You've played the whole pack. He responded to you in a dignified fashion and with humour and you had a further pop. Cathartic was it? Edited by dollardays (19 Mar 2019 3.29pm) Oh look it's 'lol' boy.....Here with his latest round of ad hominems and exaggerations of me and my motivations because his arguments are about as popular with the right as gum ulcers. Apparently if I object to the white English losing hegemony in England and becoming a minority in England by 2050 that's me having 'tremendous sensitivity around your own racial identity'......However, if I use the word 'quality' when talking about what I also applied to all racial groups I'm guilty of something. Yeah....really comparable those two aren't they 'lol' boy.....Some crime going on there. As to 'squaring up' to a non white person.....What idiotic language is that? Shall I not contest anything he writes because he isn't white? Also the fact that this murderer wouldn't have listened to you is as plain as day. Your long winded posts are bad enough to read for normal people let alone mass murderers. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 4.24pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Mar 19 4.08pm

Originally posted by dollardays

Edited by dollardays (19 Mar 2019 3.29pm)

Oh look it's 'lol' boy.....Here with his latest round of ad hominems and exaggerations of me and my motivations because his arguments are about as popular with the right as gum ulcers.

Apparently if I object to the white English losing hegemony in England and becoming a minority in England by 2050 that's me having 'tremendous sensitivity around your own racial identity'......However, if I use the word 'quality' when talking about what I also applied to all racial groups I'm guilty of something.

Yeah....really comparable those two aren't they 'lol' boy.....Some crime going on there.

As to 'squaring up' to a non white person.....What idiotic language is that? Shall I not contest anything he writes because he isn't white?

Also the fact that this murderer wouldn't have listened to you is as plain as day. Your long winded posts are bad enough to read for normal people let alone mass murderers.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Mar 2019 4.24pm)

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Stirlingsays 19 Mar 19 4.11pm
White supremacy doesn't exist....identities do...but let's not that stop people posting BS about people because that's the kind of people they are. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Mar 19 4.11pm

White supremacy doesn't exist....identities do...but let's not that stop people posting BS about people because that's the kind of people they are.

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