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Pussay Patrol  28 Dec 18 8.16am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
The house doesn't come with the job so what does that matter. She should give up the council house but she has lived there 30 years so it's her home I'm sure we'd all do the same
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 cryrst  The garden of England 28 Dec 18 8.27am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
She should give up the council house but she has lived there 30 years so it's her home I'm sure we'd all do the same Yes probably thousands with her but please.
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Badger11  Beckenham 28 Dec 18 9.19am |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
She should give up the council house but she has lived there 30 years so it's her home I'm sure we'd all do the same Like many people she probably wasn't well paid when she first moved in and her life improved subsequently. That's why I think council rent should be automatically linked to earnings. As your life improves you should have to pay more and if you are earning good money then that should be market value rent. The taxpayer should not be subsidising people who are well off. Edited by Badger11 (28 Dec 2018 9.20am)
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 28 Dec 18 12.00pm |
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there should be zero Long-term dole spongers living in expensive London. Send them to a giant tower-block ghetto which is purpose built on the Shetland Islands. Food stamps only with mandatory drink/drug testing. When they get a job they can come and live with the rest of us. why should you bust a gut to carry anonymous passengers in this life ?
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| steve1984 28 Dec 18 1.04pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
there should be zero Long-term dole spongers living in expensive London. Send them to a giant tower-block ghetto which is purpose built on the Shetland Islands. Food stamps only with mandatory drink/drug testing. When they get a job they can come and live with the rest of us. why should you bust a gut to carry anonymous passengers in this life ? I kind of doubt you'll be offering them any employment. Me neither. So what you're basically saying is if you're unemployable you should have no right to liberty. Bit harsh.
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chateauferret  28 Dec 18 2.11pm |
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Originally posted by steve1984
I kind of doubt you'll be offering them any employment. Me neither. So what you're basically saying is if you're unemployable you should have no right to liberty. Bit harsh. Since when was "unemployable" synonymous with "long-term dole sponger"? There are plenty of unemployed and unemployable people who would like to do a job if they could and there are plenty of people perfectly capable of getting and holding down a job but who don't because it isn't in their interests or they can't be arsed.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 28 Dec 18 2.59pm |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
She should give up the council house but she has lived there 30 years so it's her home I'm sure we'd all do the same I thought council houses were for the poor, not the rich? Kate Osamor is 'rich' with a salary of £77k plus benefits. She is in the top 5% of earners. Double standards here mate. You don't really care about the poor - like you constantly bleat about - as your beef is with the rich (apart from when it's one of your own, of course). Otherwise you'd be upset Osamor, who can afford to buy her own home, has taken a home away from a person who is homeless or a family crammed into a home that's too small for them to live. Edited by Penge Eagle (28 Dec 2018 3.02pm)
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 18 4.03pm |
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What was it that Orwell said about socialists? Something like, 'they don't like the poor, they just hate the rich'. If social housing isn't for the poor then it shouldn't exist.....and I support the idea and intent of social housing....We need a hell of a lot more of it. This case is an abuse of the original intention....pure and simple. There is a poor family being fecked out of a home here. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2018 4.06pm)
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| chris123 hove actually 28 Dec 18 4.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What was it that Orwell said about socialists? Something like, 'they don't like the poor, they just hate the rich'. If social housing isn't for the poor then it shouldn't exist.....and I support the idea and intent of social housing....We need a hell of a lot more of it. This case is an abuse of the original intention....pure and simple. There is a poor family being fecked out of a home here. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2018 4.06pm) Some socialists are more equal than others.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 18 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by chris123
Some socialists are more equal than others. Yep, those champagne bottles pop so loudly that it covers the sound of their own hypocrisy.
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| .TUX. 28 Dec 18 7.31pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
What was it that Orwell said about socialists? Something like, 'they don't like the poor, they just hate the rich'. If social housing isn't for the poor then it shouldn't exist.....and I support the idea and intent of social housing....We need a hell of a lot more of it. This case is an abuse of the original intention....pure and simple. There is a poor family being fecked out of a home here. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2018 4.06pm) This.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 18 7.48pm |
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I view Thatcher as a necessary correction to Britain's economic ills of the time...I mean, what were the choices? Her or Foot...But that in no way changes my view that she also did damage...We know that she started selling off the council houses without replacing the stock...houses built for people who needed them....An example of selfish short termism......Great for those that benefited while a complete pulling up of the ladder for the next generation. While we can pick apart this or that policy I think the biggest damage she did was to the mindset of how the Tory party should see itself. She wasn't a one nation Tory in the Macmillan mode.....I'm old enough to remember Macmillan complaining about her selling off the 'family silver' with that too wishful thinking that privatization was the answer to all the ills in the public utilities. The truth is that we have had very mixed results. That said, Thatcher had great qualities as both a leader and as a conviction politician....What she would think of the current parade in the party I dread to think....A line up of social justice warrior wannabes and feminists mixed with globalistic neo liberalism. As someone said the other day.....The Conservatives....what are they conserving exactly? Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2018 7.50pm)
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