I pay hard earned cash every season for a ticket which provides me with a seat.
Why should I be forced to stand by a bunch of kids who want to jump up and down and wave flags.
And why do they dress in black? We don't play in black.
I don't get the obsession with standing,I can make just as much noise sitting down

If the issue is where they were located and wanting to move behind the goal, most hard core supporters, including me, want that spot. Those that have it shouldn't be forced to move.

As far as atmosphere go i wouldn't underestimate the average Palace supporter. We know our reputation is for non-stop noise, banners and flag waving plus balloons. Even here in the US, our supporters outsing the locals with regularity when Palace tour here. at the Philly match, their singers, The Sons of Ben, actually gave up trying to outdo us and watched us do our thing with utter amazement. We're not HF but we certainly held up their traditions without a drum. Being the eternal wide eyed optimist that I am (until my depression sets in), I see this for the rank and file Palace supporter to show what we can do without an organised "singer" group on hand.

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I really wish there could be more consideration between fans. We re all supporting the same team, part of the same family.

However it really upsets me to see fans having a go at others because they feel everyone should stand. I've had a few `minor` run ins with people who seem o be part of the HF at away games (the only ones I can feasibly go to).

I can understand they want to stand and I can even respect that. However, I often go to matches with my father, ow over 70 he has supported Palace loyally since the 1950's. He is not disabled and doesn't want to be treated as such. But, he is unable to stand for 90 minutes plus anymore. We buy tickets for seats and are forced to stand on occasion because people around want to stand.

We have asked people to sit so he can see the game, and in fairness sometimes people do.
However, we have often been given dirty looks for doing so or even had comments about our lack of patriotism or support because we don't want to stand. This has actually lead to us not going to matches as much anymore and a sense on anxiety when we do. It saddens me that fellow fans of our club, HF or not and like any of these things it's not `all of them` cannot understand and respect the consequences of their behavior.

You make just as much noise sitting down? Is this why the noisiest areas in ground are all standing? There's a reason why professional singers all stand and sing rather than sit down.

There plenty of other areas in the ground for sitting. There is not much for standing.

As for dressing in black, why do you care? Are you a fashionista? Look around the ground, most fans dress in black as it is a colour that matches with anything. I would prefer that some of the grown men start wearing a slimming black rather than replica shirts as no one wants to see their obese guts.

I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.

There is actually none for standing, but the club have chosen to turn a blind eye to it in one block.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)

Have there been any deaths or injuries by crushing since PL grounds became all-seater? That will carry considerable weight with those considering any changes to the law. They may be pursuaded by safe standing, but it will only be after a lengthy consultation and, most likely, trialling.

Bexley Dave

Can you hear the Brighton sing? I can't hear a ******* thing!

"The most arrogant, obnoxious bunch of deluded little sun tanned, loafer wearing mummy's boys I've ever had the misfortune of having to listen to" (Burnley forum)