He's issued comments against them before.

They vote for him so he's more soft focus on them. But it isn't objective to see Trump as supporting white supremacy. Trump's a nationalist. It's like calling Gordon Brown a communist.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I remember his global body type.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Well they are all labels and maybe some are more accurate than others. At the end of Trump's tenure he'll be mostly judged on the economy like all presidents. The other stuff, some will hate him for and some love him for...like all presidents.

Of course I'd like America to have aspects of part socialism that we have....single payer healthcare, for example. (it's not ideal but it's the better overall system).....their system is set up for stalemate though...so something radical like that to them....it isn't likely to happen unless there is some kind of democratic landslide.....and the democrats with their current love affair with white guilt just aren't going to ever get that.....Maybe this will change of maybe in fifty years once enough people who know BS when they smell it have died off.

But then again, I'd like us to have their first amendment....I'd like their stronger commitment to cultural nationalism....ours is far less corny and low key but unfortunately multiculturalism has left us with a requirement for some kind of answer in that sphere.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2017 1.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

People have short memories.

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Yeah, we're the archetypal frog in ever heating water and you know what you are talking about. Ok Ray, Trump's got a few more years left, lets wait for the jackboots and prove me wrong. Get involved in a few punch ups if you want as you do your bit saving the world.

I've agreed there is a problem in the US with the far right more so than here. I cast doubt on those figures because they appear to be missing deaths I know have been caused by the far left so....if something isn't objective I don't really trust it...explain that to me and maybe I will trust it. But while groups like Antifa are a growing problem I don't doubt that far right groups are probably a bigger one. But regardless the vast majority on both sides regard these people as extremists.

As for my exact percentage of musculature, this will remain a mystery until Kermit takes me on in a well intentioned arm's wrestle.

You are free not to debate me, sure. I hold no gripe either way. Enjoy life and be free brother.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Aug 2017 5.35pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

They have a right to protest and, when they choose, counter-protest. However, they have shown a propensity to escalate things to violence and property damage, which is where the law should step in and arrest / punish as appropriate.

I also disagree with their tactics of hounding speakers at universities and elsewhere. While the right to freedom of speech is only constitutionally guaranteed free of government censorship (that's the bit that many people forget), speakers should not be denied a public platform just because a minority doesn't think they're going to like what they expect to hear. Let them speak and then agree / debate / denounce as you feel appropriate.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.