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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Jun 17 3.23pm
Originally posted by Part Time James Is this the only thread that no one has said Frank De Boer on yet? The whole saga has got a bit De Boering.
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22 Jun 17 3.23pm

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Originally posted by Part Time James

Is this the only thread that no one has said Frank De Boer on yet?

The whole saga has got a bit De Boering.

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simonmdt x 23 Jun 17 11.48am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger So it appears that things have returned to a pre 1960's condition which is what I would have expected. So it would be fair to say that we have enjoyed a blip of home ownership in the 60's to the 90's but that is now receding. A perfect storm of circumstances has caused it and only a rapid reduction in immigration will solve it. Either that or we will have to build houses endlessly at an enormous rate, eventually filling up the whole of habitable Britain. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Jun 2017 12.24pm) What an utter load of tosh. Net migration figures for the UK have been around 200k per year for the last ten years. In that same time the net population of the UK increased by 7 million, largely due to an aging population But England is hardly full up. English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes. So, a rapid reduction in golfers over 65 would be a way more legitimate argument. Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am)
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x 23 Jun 17 11.48am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So it appears that things have returned to a pre 1960's condition which is what I would have expected.

So it would be fair to say that we have enjoyed a blip of home ownership in the 60's to the 90's but that is now receding.
A perfect storm of circumstances has caused it and only a rapid reduction in immigration will solve it. Either that or we will have to build houses endlessly at an enormous rate, eventually filling up the whole of habitable Britain.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Jun 2017 12.24pm)

What an utter load of tosh.

Net migration figures for the UK have been around 200k per year for the last ten years. In that same time the net population of the UK increased by 7 million, largely due to an aging population

But England is hardly full up.

English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes.

So, a rapid reduction in golfers over 65 would be a way more legitimate argument.

Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am)

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wordup 23 Jun 17 6.46pm
The government should do more to bring about a real push to build more houses. That benefits the people though rather than the government. There will be no push on the housing front and whatever shade of brexit we see, I doubt immigration will come down much either. Cheap labour init'.
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23 Jun 17 6.46pm

The government should do more to bring about a real push to build more houses. That benefits the people though rather than the government. There will be no push on the housing front and whatever shade of brexit we see, I doubt immigration will come down much either. Cheap labour init'.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 6.59pm
Originally posted by wordup The government should do more to bring about a real push to build more houses. That benefits the people though rather than the government. There will be no push on the housing front and whatever shade of brexit we see, I doubt immigration will come down much either. Cheap labour init'. Interesting OBrien show on Lbc yesterday discussing the pitfalls of the law that all new housing developments have to have a percentage of social housing. I think we need to build new council housing estates run by local authorities rather than ALMO 's. Lived on a council estate till I was 9. Lots of great memories.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 6.59pm

Originally posted by wordup

Interesting OBrien show on Lbc yesterday discussing the pitfalls of the law that all new housing developments have to have a percentage of social housing.

I think we need to build new council housing estates run by local authorities rather than ALMO 's.

Lived on a council estate till I was 9. Lots of great memories.

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Stirlingsays 23 Jun 17 7.07pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Interesting OBrien show on Lbc yesterday discussing the pitfalls of the law that all new housing developments have to have a percentage of social housing. I think we need to build new council housing estates run by local authorities rather than ALMO 's. Lived on a council estate till I was 9. Lots of great memories. I lived on one called Stockwell Park Estate till I was 17. Lot of s*** memories.....where was yours? I do agree that we need much more social housing.....If governments are going to allow the population to increase at the rate it has then they have to pay the infrastructure price for it. Apparently all these massive immigration net gains are a financial net gain....Not something I've ever believed by the way. If you don't build any infrastructure to cope with increased numbers it might even out....but the real cost isn't being told. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Jun 17 7.07pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Interesting OBrien show on Lbc yesterday discussing the pitfalls of the law that all new housing developments have to have a percentage of social housing.

I think we need to build new council housing estates run by local authorities rather than ALMO 's.

Lived on a council estate till I was 9. Lots of great memories.

I lived on one called Stockwell Park Estate till I was 17. Lot of s*** memories.....where was yours?

I do agree that we need much more social housing.....If governments are going to allow the population to increase at the rate it has then they have to pay the infrastructure price for it.

Apparently all these massive immigration net gains are a financial net gain....Not something I've ever believed by the way.

If you don't build any infrastructure to cope with increased numbers it might even out....but the real cost isn't being told.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Stirlingsays 23 Jun 17 7.12pm
Originally posted by simonmdt English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes. Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am) Well if you are going to say that's a lot of tosh then I'm going to say that the contention that '10% of England is built upon' is also a statement of technical tosh. Those statistics included things like people's back gardens. If you are going to criticise someone else try not to be easily risible yourself. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Jun 17 7.12pm

Originally posted by simonmdt

English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes.

Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am)

Well if you are going to say that's a lot of tosh then I'm going to say that the contention that '10% of England is built upon' is also a statement of technical tosh.

Those statistics included things like people's back gardens.

If you are going to criticise someone else try not to be easily risible yourself.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 7.17pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Well if you are going to say that's a lot of tosh then I'm going to say that the contention that '10% of England is built upon' is also a statement of technical tosh. Those statistics included things like people's back gardens. If you are going to criticise someone else try not to be easily risible yourself. Are they the same gardens that would have been taxed if the bulls*** daily mail would have you believe. (It was of course complete bollocks) Dual nationality, I don't see a problem. If it's alright for Clinton O'Morrison... If I had different nationality parents I'd hate to have to choose.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 7.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Well if you are going to say that's a lot of tosh then I'm going to say that the contention that '10% of England is built upon' is also a statement of technical tosh.

Those statistics included things like people's back gardens.

If you are going to criticise someone else try not to be easily risible yourself.

Are they the same gardens that would have been taxed if the bulls*** daily mail would have you believe. (It was of course complete bollocks)

Dual nationality, I don't see a problem. If it's alright for Clinton O'Morrison...

If I had different nationality parents I'd hate to have to choose.

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elgrande bedford 23 Jun 17 7.17pm
Originally posted by simonmdt What an utter load of tosh. Net migration figures for the UK have been around 200k per year for the last ten years. In that same time the net population of the UK increased by 7 million, largely due to an aging population But England is hardly full up. English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes. So, a rapid reduction in golfers over 65 would be a way more legitimate argument. Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am) Since 2004 (when Blair opened the UK up to eastern European migrants,the population has increased by 5 million people,before that it took 35 years to do that. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 23 Jun 17 7.17pm

Originally posted by simonmdt

What an utter load of tosh.

Net migration figures for the UK have been around 200k per year for the last ten years. In that same time the net population of the UK increased by 7 million, largely due to an aging population

But England is hardly full up.

English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes.

So, a rapid reduction in golfers over 65 would be a way more legitimate argument.

Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am)

Since 2004 (when Blair opened the UK up to eastern European migrants,the population has increased by 5 million people,before that it took 35 years to do that.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 7.20pm
Originally posted by elgrande Since 2004 (when Blair opened the UK up to eastern European migrants,the population has increased by 5 million people,before that it took 35 years to do that. Is that in line with global population rising? If so, then we're right in the middle of the bell curve.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Jun 17 7.20pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Since 2004 (when Blair opened the UK up to eastern European migrants,the population has increased by 5 million people,before that it took 35 years to do that.

Is that in line with global population rising? If so, then we're right in the middle of the bell curve.

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Stirlingsays 23 Jun 17 7.29pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Are they the same gardens that would have been taxed if the bulls*** daily mail would have you believe. (It was of course complete bollocks) Dual nationality, I don't see a problem. If it's alright for Clinton O'Morrison... If I had different nationality parents I'd hate to have to choose. Yet you use the Daily Mail as a source when it supports your view. It makes no difference...that 'only ten percent of England' statistic is very misleading and shouldn't be cited. Yes, I know you don't see a problem with it Nick.....You and I share may share some concerns but not much when it comes to what we feel the state should represent and do. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Jun 17 7.29pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Are they the same gardens that would have been taxed if the bulls*** daily mail would have you believe. (It was of course complete bollocks)

Dual nationality, I don't see a problem. If it's alright for Clinton O'Morrison...

If I had different nationality parents I'd hate to have to choose.

Yet you use the Daily Mail as a source when it supports your view.

It makes no difference...that 'only ten percent of England' statistic is very misleading and shouldn't be cited.

Yes, I know you don't see a problem with it Nick.....You and I share may share some concerns but not much when it comes to what we feel the state should represent and do.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 23 Jun 17 7.44pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Is that in line with global population rising? If so, then we're right in the middle of the bell curve. The increased rate of population growth in the UK is because of the huge levels of immigration over the period. [Link] Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 23 Jun 17 7.44pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is that in line with global population rising? If so, then we're right in the middle of the bell curve.

The increased rate of population growth in the UK is because of the huge levels of immigration over the period.

[Link]

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Jun 17 7.46pm
Originally posted by simonmdt What an utter load of tosh. Net migration figures for the UK have been around 200k per year for the last ten years. In that same time the net population of the UK increased by 7 million, largely due to an aging population But England is hardly full up. English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes. So, a rapid reduction in golfers over 65 would be a way more legitimate argument. Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am) How little you understand.
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23 Jun 17 7.46pm

Originally posted by simonmdt

What an utter load of tosh.

Net migration figures for the UK have been around 200k per year for the last ten years. In that same time the net population of the UK increased by 7 million, largely due to an aging population

But England is hardly full up.

English golf courses use an amount of land that is equivalent to one fifth of England’s total built up area (10% of England is built upon) and could provide at least eight million homes.

So, a rapid reduction in golfers over 65 would be a way more legitimate argument.

Edited by simonmdt (23 Jun 2017 11.48am)

How little you understand.

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