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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Sep 19 3.51pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Brought to us from the 'Party of Law and Order' No, brought by me, just observing what I think might happen and not necessarily what I would want to happen. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 Sep 19 3.51pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brought to us from the 'Party of Law and Order'

No, brought by me, just observing what I think might happen and not necessarily what I would want to happen.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 25 Sep 19 3.53pm
Germany is about to go into significant recession. The EU economy is at a practical standstill. Despite remainers constantly trying to talk down the UK economy we have been resilient. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 4.38pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 Sep 19 3.53pm

Germany is about to go into significant recession.

The EU economy is at a practical standstill.

Despite remainers constantly trying to talk down the UK economy we have been resilient.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 4.38pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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dannyboy1978 25 Sep 19 3.56pm
Look at the choice of pictures from a smug picture of May to a stupid pose from Cummings, the BBC are trying to paint a picture with their choice of photos and it's so transparent. BBC News - Supreme Court: Pictures from heated Commons debate [Link]
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dannyboy1978

25 Sep 19 3.56pm

Look at the choice of pictures from a smug picture of May to a stupid pose from Cummings, the BBC are trying to paint a picture with their choice of photos and it's so transparent.
BBC News - Supreme Court: Pictures from heated Commons debate
[Link]

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Invalid user 2019 25 Sep 19 3.57pm
Originally posted by Matov Decided that there is no more point in getting bogged down in this. The ONLY thing that will settle it now is a General Election. The timing of it can or will radically alter the outcome and so it's a fascinating and somewhat scary proposition. Likely very different GE results if: We leave on 31st Oct without a deal (then surely the Brexit party is dead, so big Tory majority) We leave on 31st with a deal (Voting dependent on perception of the deal) We get another extension (Faith in Johnson will diminish hence higher Brexit Party vote and possibly Lab-Lib government) If article 50 is revoked (Brexit likely topping polls, with Lab and Lid dem next highest)
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Invalid user 2019

25 Sep 19 3.57pm

Originally posted by Matov

Decided that there is no more point in getting bogged down in this. The ONLY thing that will settle it now is a General Election.

The timing of it can or will radically alter the outcome and so it's a fascinating and somewhat scary proposition. Likely very different GE results if:

We leave on 31st Oct without a deal (then surely the Brexit party is dead, so big Tory majority)

We leave on 31st with a deal (Voting dependent on perception of the deal)

We get another extension (Faith in Johnson will diminish hence higher Brexit Party vote and possibly Lab-Lib government)

If article 50 is revoked (Brexit likely topping polls, with Lab and Lid dem next highest)

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Matov 25 Sep 19 3.58pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Yep....fingers crossed. I can only eat so many bags of popcorn. LOL. It has certainly opened my eyes. I had always considered myself to be politically savvy but if you had told me on July 24th that we would still be in the EU and with people actively conspiring to maintain that state of affairs then I would have dismissed it as fantasy. I bore myself now with this but it was an exercise in democracy that has never been bettered, at least in my life time. Huge turn-out, record number of votes cast and a winning margin that offered a clear winner. And with each vote counting for the same. No rotten boroughs or safe seats but just two piles of votes and the highest one winning. Still you live and learn. But it has to be ended. The only remaining method of bringing this to a close is a General Election. Parliament has failed to honour its promise and as such, it requires a reset. Then perhaps we can start the process of forgiving the Remain side who refused to accept the result from June 23rd. It will be hard but it has to be done. And no more referendums. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

25 Sep 19 3.58pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep....fingers crossed.

I can only eat so many bags of popcorn.

LOL. It has certainly opened my eyes. I had always considered myself to be politically savvy but if you had told me on July 24th that we would still be in the EU and with people actively conspiring to maintain that state of affairs then I would have dismissed it as fantasy.

I bore myself now with this but it was an exercise in democracy that has never been bettered, at least in my life time. Huge turn-out, record number of votes cast and a winning margin that offered a clear winner. And with each vote counting for the same. No rotten boroughs or safe seats but just two piles of votes and the highest one winning.

Still you live and learn.

But it has to be ended. The only remaining method of bringing this to a close is a General Election. Parliament has failed to honour its promise and as such, it requires a reset.

Then perhaps we can start the process of forgiving the Remain side who refused to accept the result from June 23rd. It will be hard but it has to be done.

And no more referendums.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 25 Sep 19 4.03pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle It isn’t semantics because unlawful and illegal have, as Becky highlighted, have different definitions. Had Johnson committed an illegal act he could go to prison. He didn’t. And once again he was acting on advice from the Attorney General. I am no lawyer but this seems to me to be just a diversion which, as it makes no difference at all to the outcome of yesterday's decision, really is semantics. I think you are wrong though. People can be sent to prison for unlawful acts, although it was never going to be appropriate in this case. I found this explanation:- In brief; lawful and legal differ in that 'lawful' contemplates the substance of law [its content], whereas 'legal' alludes to the form of law [its form or appearance]. In effect it appears to make no difference to outcomes. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 25 Sep 19 4.03pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

It isn’t semantics because unlawful and illegal have, as Becky highlighted, have different definitions. Had Johnson committed an illegal act he could go to prison. He didn’t. And once again he was acting on advice from the Attorney General.

I am no lawyer but this seems to me to be just a diversion which, as it makes no difference at all to the outcome of yesterday's decision, really is semantics.

I think you are wrong though. People can be sent to prison for unlawful acts, although it was never going to be appropriate in this case. I found this explanation:-

In brief; lawful and legal differ in that 'lawful' contemplates the substance of law [its content], whereas 'legal' alludes to the form of law [its form or appearance].

In effect it appears to make no difference to outcomes.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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steeleye20 Croydon 25 Sep 19 4.04pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Germany is about to go into significant recession. The EU economy is at a practical standstill. Despite remainers constantly trying to talk down the UK economy down we have been resilient. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 3.56pm) If only your posts would go into recession. Do you ever do anything else.
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steeleye20

Croydon 25 Sep 19 4.04pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Germany is about to go into significant recession.

The EU economy is at a practical standstill.

Despite remainers constantly trying to talk down the UK economy down we have been resilient.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 3.56pm)

If only your posts would go into recession.

Do you ever do anything else.

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Stirlingsays 25 Sep 19 4.10pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 If only your posts would go into recession. Do you ever do anything else. Truth hurts doesn't it Steely. Never mind, ask Nursey to stick some painkiller in the next bottle. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 4.16pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

25 Sep 19 4.10pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

If only your posts would go into recession.

Do you ever do anything else.

Truth hurts doesn't it Steely.

Never mind, ask Nursey to stick some painkiller in the next bottle.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 4.16pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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martin2412 Living The Dream 25 Sep 19 4.17pm
Originally posted by Matov LOL. It has certainly opened my eyes. I had always considered myself to be politically savvy but if you had told me on July 24th that we would still be in the EU and with people actively conspiring to maintain that state of affairs then I would have dismissed it as fantasy. I bore myself now with this but it was an exercise in democracy that has never been bettered, at least in my life time. Huge turn-out, record number of votes cast and a winning margin that offered a clear winner. And with each vote counting for the same. No rotten boroughs or safe seats but just two piles of votes and the highest one winning. Still you live and learn. But it has to be ended. The only remaining method of bringing this to a close is a General Election. Parliament has failed to honour its promise and as such, it requires a reset. Then perhaps we can start the process of forgiving the Remain side who refused to accept the result from June 23rd. It will be hard but it has to be done. And no more referendums. I'll never forgive the remain side because its them that have caused most of the crap we're going through at the moment by not honouring the democratic vote in 2016 and forcing no-deal off the table. No matter what deal (if any) comes back, Corbyn, Swinson, Hammond and their mates will oppose it because Boris got it. It's got sod all to do with what's best for the country. They remind me of the kid you see throwing a tantrum on the supermarket floor because they didn't get what they wanted. They're all curnts.
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martin2412

Living The Dream 25 Sep 19 4.17pm

Originally posted by Matov

Still you live and learn.

But it has to be ended. The only remaining method of bringing this to a close is a General Election. Parliament has failed to honour its promise and as such, it requires a reset.

Then perhaps we can start the process of forgiving the Remain side who refused to accept the result from June 23rd. It will be hard but it has to be done.

And no more referendums.

I'll never forgive the remain side because its them that have caused most of the crap we're going through at the moment by not honouring the democratic vote in 2016 and forcing no-deal off the table.

No matter what deal (if any) comes back, Corbyn, Swinson, Hammond and their mates will oppose it because Boris got it. It's got sod all to do with what's best for the country.

They remind me of the kid you see throwing a tantrum on the supermarket floor because they didn't get what they wanted.

They're all curnts.

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Midlands Eagle 25 Sep 19 4.19pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 If only your posts would go into recession. Do you ever do anything else. So says the man who only ever posts rubbish
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25 Sep 19 4.19pm

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Originally posted by steeleye20

If only your posts would go into recession.

Do you ever do anything else.

So says the man who only ever posts rubbish

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chris123 hove actually 25 Sep 19 4.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Germany is about to go into significant recession. The EU economy is at a practical standstill. Despite remainers constantly trying to talk down the UK economy down we have been resilient. Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 3.56pm) German manufactured exports have benefitted from a weak euro for years.
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