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Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Sep 19 10.41am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree


So the 11 most senior Judges in the land erred in Law?

Many of them are in their seventies so it's not surprising as they may well be senile

 

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Teddy Eagle Flag 25 Sep 19 10.44am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Many of them are in their seventies so it's not surprising as they may well be senile

You’ve stirred up a hornet’s nest there M E. Let’s await the first indignant response.

 

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DanH Flag SW2 25 Sep 19 10.45am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There was no law or precedent, they made it up as they went.

They literally second guessed the PM and involved themselves in politics.

I warrant everyone of them was a remainer.....the elites have it coming one way or the other.


Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 10.01am)

For someone that wants solely for British law to rule over us you seem to have a complete disregard for how it actually operates.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 25 Sep 19 10.49am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

For someone that wants solely for British law to rule over us you seem to have a complete disregard for how it actually operates.

So in your mind, if British law effectively works to keep EU power in place then that's fine and dandy.

Well sure, that fits your political cucking but it's not for me.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 Sep 2019 10.54am)

 


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becky Flag over the moon 25 Sep 19 11.04am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

For someone that wants solely for British law to rule over us you seem to have a complete disregard for how it actually operates.

English Law can only overrule Parliament if Parliament has broken the Law, otherwise the precedent is for Parliament to be above the Law.

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Mapletree Flag Croydon 25 Sep 19 11.20am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by becky

English Law can only overrule Parliament if Parliament has broken the Law, otherwise the precedent is for Parliament to be above the Law.

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We have only a partially codified Legal system. Where there is no codification precedent and fairness are assessed through the Courts

Presumably you now advocate a change to a Napoleonic system.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Sep 19 11.21am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Not semantics at all:

Black's Law Dictionary defines unlawful as "not authorized by law, illegal." Illegal is defined as "forbidden by law, unlawful"

Since there is nothing on the statute books about prorogation, or what may be considered an acceptable period of prorogation, it cannot possibly be illegal.

Since what Boris has done has not broken any Law, and given that HM the Queen gave her assent to his actions,and HM the Queen being above the Law as she IS the Law, one actually wonders whether the Supreme Court's judgement in this matter is enforceable.

It is absolutely semantics.

The highest Court in the UK has spoken. You can put whatever twist you want to on it as a way of justifying your own position, as Johnson and his bunch are now doing, but there is nowhere else now to go, legally.

The only way to change the law is through Parliament and I doubt very much whether there is much support there for such a change at the moment.

So semantics and enforceable it is.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 25 Sep 19 11.25am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The highest Court in the UK has spoken. You can put whatever twist you want to on it as a way of justifying your own position, as Johnson and his bunch are now doing, but there is nowhere else now to go, legally.

Yes there is but I can't see the Government wanting to go there

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Sep 19 11.25am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

So if remain win a second referendum why would we not claim that you didn’t know what you were voting for? For example, a European army of greater powers transferred to Brussels?

Seems a lot more likely than project fear.

Simple. You wouldn't be voting for either. The UK retains sovereignty and control over whether it participates in such things.

 


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palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 25 Sep 19 11.30am Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Yes there is but I can't see the Government wanting to go there

The ultimate paradox?

 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 25 Sep 19 11.30am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It is absolutely semantics.

The highest Court in the UK has spoken. You can put whatever twist you want to on it as a way of justifying your own position, as Johnson and his bunch are now doing, but there is nowhere else now to go, legally.

The only way to change the law is through Parliament and I doubt very much whether there is much support there for such a change at the moment.

So semantics and enforceable it is.

I think Becky was commenting on your failure to distinguish between illegal and unlawful. They are not the same, although you thought the issue semantic.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Sep 19 11.31am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It is absolutely semantics.

The highest Court in the UK has spoken. You can put whatever twist you want to on it as a way of justifying your own position, as Johnson and his bunch are now doing, but there is nowhere else now to go, legally.

The only way to change the law is through Parliament and I doubt very much whether there is much support there for such a change at the moment.

So semantics and enforceable it is.

The highest court has not spoken as the highest court is the Houses of Parliament. The Privvy Council would be the highest court.
Of course, the final appeal these days would be to European Courts!

 


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