You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Coronavirus and the impact of Lockdown policy
October 28 2024 6.18pm

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

Coronavirus and the impact of Lockdown policy

Previous Topic | Next Topic


Page 216 of 289 < 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 >

  

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 23 8.13pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

"Every day is hard’: The families battling for AstraZeneca vaccine compensation"

[Link]

This has nothing to do with the safety of vaccines and the need for us all to use them.

It is only to do with the difficulties encountered in getting adequate compensation from the government for the unfortunate few who suffer side effects.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
eaglesdare Flag 10 Nov 23 8.58pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This has nothing to do with the safety of vaccines and the need for us all to use them.

It is only to do with the difficulties encountered in getting adequate compensation from the government for the unfortunate few who suffer side effects.

"For those who want to maintain a narrative that vaccines do no harm, the experience of the vaccine injured and bereaved constitutes an inconvenient truth."

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Nov 23 10.22pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

"For those who want to maintain a narrative that vaccines do no harm, the experience of the vaccine injured and bereaved constitutes an inconvenient truth."

Is a quote from whom?

Is sounds like the kind of thing you might say, even if it’s more articulate.

Nobody says that vaccines do no harm. Getting out of bed can harm a tiny number of people, but getting in and having a good sleep is hugely beneficial for everyone else.

Vaccines are no different.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
eaglesdare Flag 10 Nov 23 10.30pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Esther McVey MP, speaking in the UK Parliament two weeks ago said: "The 'safe and effective' mantra is now utterly destroyed and those of us who spoke publicly about our concerns regarding the Covid vaccines have been completely vindicated"

The last few days with the news on the astrazeneca has further proved this point.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
BrentisBack Flag Beckenham 10 Nov 23 10.40pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

"For those who want to maintain a narrative that vaccines do no harm, the experience of the vaccine injured and bereaved constitutes an inconvenient truth."

Some people have adverse effects to taking a bloody aspirin. Doesn’t mean that they don’t work without harming the vast majority of people. You’re clutching at straws.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Quote this post in a reply
eaglesdare Flag 10 Nov 23 10.45pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by BrentisBack

Some people have adverse effects to taking a bloody aspirin. Doesn’t mean that they don’t work without harming the vast majority of people. You’re clutching at straws.

People are not and were not forced or mandated against their will or locked out of society to take aspirin which is not an experimental drug.

An inconvenient truth indeed.

 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 23 3.56am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

'For those who want to maintain a narrative that vaccines do no harm, the experience of the vaccine injured and bereaved constitutes an inconvenient truth.'

This quote given earlier is from Sarah Moore writing in the Telegraph.

A publication with plenty of lawyers and editors checking their output.

It should obviously be stated that not all vaccines are the same. I've taken vaccines all my life....just not the ones mentioned.

I come from the position that the picture of safety and long term harms or benefits is not yet properly known.

The excess deaths 'pandemic', receives little fanfare, despite having caused more death than covid itself.

That should fully sink in to all those who where driven to hysteria by our government and media.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Nov 2023 3.59am)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 23 8.49am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Esther McVey MP, speaking in the UK Parliament two weeks ago said: "The 'safe and effective' mantra is now utterly destroyed and those of us who spoke publicly about our concerns regarding the Covid vaccines have been completely vindicated"

The last few days with the news on the astrazeneca has further proved this point.

No it does not. All it proves is that at least one MP is as misinformed as you.

If you followed this “logic” to its conclusion we would stop every kind of medical intervention.

No one would then suffer any side effects of vaccines but half of us would die early of other things.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 23 8.55am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

People are not and were not forced or mandated against their will or locked out of society to take aspirin which is not an experimental drug.

An inconvenient truth indeed.

Vaccines are not experimental treatments. They all have to undergo safety evaluations and receive regulatory approval. Then real time use will add experience to that so that if side effects are found in certain people steps can be taken. As they have been.

Your attitude is, frankly said, not just ridiculous, it’s dangerously stupid.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Nov 23 9.04am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

The excess deaths we are seeing is well understood. That though doesn’t stop malicious actors spreading the idea that the vaccines might be responsible.

They aren’t. Covid is. Not directly in most cases but through the longer term impact on our health services not functioning as well during the crisis as before it, resulting in missed diagnosis and delayed treatments.

I have little doubt the current enquiry will examine this and, hopefully, get the facts out more clearly.

In the meantime those who follow monetising muck rakers, like Dr John Campbell, would be well advised to think more carefully.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Nov 2023 9.05am)

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
eaglesdare Flag 11 Nov 23 9.13am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

The articles just keep on comming.....

"The real Covid jab scandal is finally emerging
The young and healthy, who were at minimal risk from Covid, should not have been told they had to take the vaccine"

[Link]


 

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply
Stirlingsays Flag 11 Nov 23 9.20am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

To say that the reasons for excess deaths are well understood is simplistic misinformation.

It is an area of undergoing study.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Alert Alert a moderator to this post Edit this post Quote this post in a reply

  

Page 216 of 289 < 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 >

Previous Topic | Next Topic

You are here: Home > Message Board > News & Politics > Coronavirus and the impact of Lockdown policy