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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 2.44pm

Voting: In

3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too.

That's enough to sway me.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 20 Feb 16 3.12pm

Voting: out

Zero wage rises
Chronic housing shortage
Massively stretched NHS
Shortage of school places
General overpopulation
Loss of British values/way of life/culture and general identity.

That’s enough to sway me.

 


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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 20 Feb 16 3.20pm

I will definitely be voting for us to regain our sovereignty. Unfortunately the odds currently suggest that there is a 75% chance we will stay.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 3.21pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Voting: out

Zero wage rises
Chronic housing shortage
Massively stretched NHS
Shortage of school places
General overpopulation
Loss of British values/way of life/culture and general identity.

That’s enough to sway me.

The financial crisis and lack of building by successive governments is responsible for the first two and the next two are down to the politicians here too not the EU.

The last two fair enough. You have a point but it is mostly the South-East and a some northern cities where it is truly felt and not for the majority.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 3.27pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

I will definitely be voting for us to regain our sovereignty. Unfortunately the odds currently suggest that there is a 75% chance we will stay.


Better the devil you know and all that.

The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today.

If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'.

 


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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 20 Feb 16 3.40pm

Originally posted by Kermit8


Better the devil you know and all that.

The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today.

If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'.


Both sides have strong arguments and I daresay in the coming months we'll hear them both to death. Personally I feel that the country has long been in a gradual state of decay and that a lack of control over our own affairs is a big part of that.

Additionally the arrogance of the EU irritates me and I don't see why we should continue to put so much into a club where we are despised by most of the other members.

 


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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 20 Feb 16 3.44pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

I will definitely be voting for us to regain our sovereignty. Unfortunately the odds currently suggest that there is a 75% chance we will stay.


Several of today’s polls on the BBC had the Leave vote ahead.

One things is for sure - it’s the leave vote which is gaining momentum.

I think this could be down to the wire. If the leave side really put on campaign and people start to believe that this could happen I think they could win.

There are a lot of fed up people out there.

 


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Harry Beever Flag Newbury 20 Feb 16 3.59pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Voting: In

3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too.

That's enough to sway me.

Kermit is all european trade going to cease and are those 3 million jobs going to be lost and 200,000 businesses go bust if we leave? Just suspicious that these statistics are spewed out by pro-european scare mongerers.

I was in and the more I read the less sure I am. What started off as a trade agreement has evolved beyond recognition. Seems the big businesses are desperate to stay in but they don't really give much of a s*** about the man on the street. It surely can't just be a financial argument.

I have a relatively poor understanding of the complexity of the argument and am probably in good company. The fog of spin makes it difficult to understand. The media seem to be very busy heralding the success of Cameron's negotiations without pointing out the failures. Is it true that despite all the negotiations the EU can turn around after the referendum and veto what has been agreed

 

matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.45pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Voting: In

3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too.

That's enough to sway me.

I am curious to why you believe 'big business' on Europe but not on other matters. Please could you explain your thinking and the statistics you provide?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.47pm

Originally posted by Kermit8


Better the devil you know and all that.

The EU isn't so bad. It has given us some great things over the decades and has a positive impact for many millions here in the UK today.

If it truly was that awful as some have convinced themselves it is 75% would be voting 'Out'.

Simple fact appears to be that Kermit believes it better not to be labelled a 'racist' rather than do something that is in the nation's interest.

Hence, in his mind, anyone who votes 'out' is a racist and he is better, well, just because.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.48pm

Originally posted by Harry Beever

Kermit is all european trade going to cease and are those 3 million jobs going to be lost and 200,000 businesses go bust if we leave? Just suspicious that these statistics are spewed out by pro-european scare mongerers.

I was in and the more I read the less sure I am. What started off as a trade agreement has evolved beyond recognition. Seems the big businesses are desperate to stay in but they don't really give much of a s*** about the man on the street. It surely can't just be a financial argument.

I have a relatively poor understanding of the complexity of the argument and am probably in good company. The fog of spin makes it difficult to understand. The media seem to be very busy heralding the success of Cameron's negotiations without pointing out the failures. Is it true that despite all the negotiations the EU can turn around after the referendum and veto what has been agreed

Answer the man, Micheal.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 4.51pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

I am curious to why you believe 'big business' on Europe but not on other matters. Please could you explain your thinking and the statistics you provide?


Source: Office for National Stats not 'Big Business'

Now bore off and come back when you are less petulant and are able to stop projecting your own insecurities onto others.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 4.56pm

Originally posted by Harry Beever

Kermit is all european trade going to cease and are those 3 million jobs going to be lost and 200,000 businesses go bust if we leave? Just suspicious that these statistics are spewed out by pro-european scare mongerers.

I was in and the more I read the less sure I am. What started off as a trade agreement has evolved beyond recognition. Seems the big businesses are desperate to stay in but they don't really give much of a s*** about the man on the street. It surely can't just be a financial argument.

I have a relatively poor understanding of the complexity of the argument and am probably in good company. The fog of spin makes it difficult to understand. The media seem to be very busy heralding the success of Cameron's negotiations without pointing out the failures. Is it true that despite all the negotiations the EU can turn around after the referendum and veto what has been agreed

No. But will all be saved?

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.57pm

Originally posted by Kermit8


Source: Office for National Stats not 'Big Business'

Now bore off and come back when you are less petulant and are able to stop projecting your own insecurities onto others.

You have provided nothing dear, just empty words and phrases.

Please, and I ask you this for the multiple time, enlighten us as to why, with hard statistics, Britain is better off in the EU.

If you cannot, one can't but believe that you are merely forcing your w*** dreams on us.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 16 4.58pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

No. But will all be saved?

You tell us. You appear to have the answers at hand.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself Flag Matataland 20 Feb 16 5.05pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

Voting: In

3 million UK jobs are connected to EU trade and 200,000 of our businesses too.

That's enough to sway me.

Provide evidence to back this up, dear.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

aquickgame2 Flag Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 20 Feb 16 5.06pm

From what I know,which isn't much and from what I've been told,if we get out the following will happen.

The pound will drop 15/20%...so there's your spending money on the costas fckd.

No reciprocal NHS when were abroad

Cheap flights to Europe will disappear

The stock market will take a big drop,so that's your pension fckd.

All them affect me...so i'm an IN

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 20 Feb 16 5.07pm

I am old enough to have voted last time under Ted Heath(tory) I voted OUT....

Now, this time under Cameron(tory) I will again vote OUT.

This is my democratic right, so, I don't care what the rest of you lot think.....ok!

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 5.10pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

You have provided nothing dear, just empty words and phrases.

Please, and I ask you this for the multiple time, enlighten us as to why, with hard statistics, Britain is better off in the EU.

If you cannot, one can't but believe that you are merely forcing your w*** dreams on us.

As you have been reasonably polite with this post....


"Over 3 million UK jobs are linked to our trade with the EU - that's one in every ten UK jobs.
Source: Office for National Statistics

Being in the EU means lower prices in our shops because it's cheaper to trade and there is more choice - saving you on average £450 a year.


While being in the EU costs each household less than a pound a day, independent experts estimate the benefits are worth £3,000 a year to the average household, due to lower prices and more jobs, trade and investment.
Source: CBI, Office for National Statistics

We are safer thanks to the European Arrest Warrant, which means we can arrest criminals across the EU - we would lose this if we left.

200,000 UK businesses trade with the EU - helping them create jobs here in the UK.
Source: HMRC

The UK gets £66 million of investment every day from EU countries - creating even more jobs and opportunities for UK families.
Source: Office for National Statistics"

There's my w***fest

Refute at your leisure.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 20 Feb 16 5.12pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

Provide evidence to back this up, dear.

When are you planning to grow up? Before we leave the EU or after?

 


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