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 eaglesdare  07 Nov 23 10.29am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Get a grip! A response to a pandemic isn’t in the same category! It’s a temporary expedient to cope with an emergency. Surely climate change is also an "emergency" governments can do what they want in the name of "public safety" or "saving lives" Edited by eaglesdare (07 Nov 2023 10.29am)
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| eaglesdare 07 Nov 23 10.31am |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
Originally posted by Eden Eagle
It is utterly pointless trying to have any rational debate with WE - he remains a lockdown zealot who lives comfortably on his pension and buy to let portfolio and is tone deaf to the suffering caused both economically and also the long term damage to children's education and the near collapse of the NHS. You are right.
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| eaglesdare 07 Nov 23 10.34am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On what basis due you make such a daft assertion? Banks compete with each other. If there is a demand for a service that encourages climate change, ant-vax ideas etc then someone will provide it. That’s the commercial reality. Look at the media world. There was a demand for a Fox type TV outlet, so along came GBNews. Do you think the owners are driven by ideology or a desire to make money? Clearly NatWest are driven by Idealogy. These days Idealogy is linked to money. If you have the "right" ideas you get funded for it. The two are linked.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 23 11.47am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Surely climate change is also an "emergency" governments can do what they want in the name of "public safety" or "saving lives" Edited by eaglesdare (07 Nov 2023 10.29am) No. It’s very important but it doesn’t be have to handled today. As you can see by the way we are delaying action. It’s something that is being handled by persuasion and long term life style changes, not emergency measures. An emergency would be the knowledge that a violent storm surge was about to come up the Thames necessitating the raising of the barrier, something we have prepared for, plus the evacuation of unprotected homes.
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Teddy Eagle  07 Nov 23 11.51am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
How might your freedoms be eroded? NatWest are a business. They are free to offer a service which you are free to accept or reject. No erosion of anything. Except perhaps clear thinking. The same clear thinking which enables them to invest money on behalf of some customers with whose businesses they claim not to approve whilst warning other customers not to deal with them.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 23 11.54am |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
Clearly NatWest are driven by Idealogy. These days Idealogy is linked to money. If you have the "right" ideas you get funded for it. The two are linked. Your opinion. If so, and you disagree, don’t use them. That’s your free choice. If any business believes its customer’s motivations have changed then they would be foolish not to react to them. If you find every bank adopts a similar stance, which seems extremely unlikely to me, then do what everybody who doesn’t trust the banks must do. Either find another way to handle your finances (my parents never held a bank account and only dealt in cash) or suck it up.
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| eaglesdare 07 Nov 23 12.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Your opinion. If so, and you disagree, don’t use them. That’s your free choice. If any business believes its customer’s motivations have changed then they would be foolish not to react to them. If you find every bank adopts a similar stance, which seems extremely unlikely to me, then do what everybody who doesn’t trust the banks must do. Either find another way to handle your finances (my parents never held a bank account and only dealt in cash) or suck it up.
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| eaglesdare 07 Nov 23 12.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. It’s very important but it doesn’t be have to handled today. As you can see by the way we are delaying action. It’s something that is being handled by persuasion and long term life style changes, not emergency measures. An emergency would be the knowledge that a violent storm surge was about to come up the Thames necessitating the raising of the barrier, something we have prepared for, plus the evacuation of unprotected homes. whatever you say....
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 23 6.33pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The same clear thinking which enables them to invest money on behalf of some customers with whose businesses they claim not to approve whilst warning other customers not to deal with them. Different issue. One that if you feel is unacceptable you have complete freedom not to deal with them. If enough decide not to then they either change strategy or go out of business.
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| Teddy Eagle 07 Nov 23 10.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Different issue. One that if you feel is unacceptable you have complete freedom not to deal with them. If enough decide not to then they either change strategy or go out of business. The question is why they feel the need to do it in the first place. It is the definition of hypocritical virtue signalling. Are they going to refuse a loan to somebody who wants to open a butchers shop?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Nov 23 10.39pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The question is why they feel the need to do it in the first place. It is the definition of hypocritical virtue signalling. Are they going to refuse a loan to somebody who wants to open a butchers shop? You would need to ask them and whoever decides their marketing strategy, which seems to have taken a particularly “socially aware” direction recently. Only they will know why and if it is paying dividends. The rumpus over Farage must have been a big hit.
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| Teddy Eagle 07 Nov 23 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You would need to ask them and whoever decides their marketing strategy, which seems to have taken a particularly “socially aware” direction recently. Only they will know why and if it is paying dividends. The rumpus over Farage must have been a big hit. An acceptable hit when they're making approaching £10m a day in profits. Still, good news for everyone since HM Treasury own 41% of their shares.
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