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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 22 2.37pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Junked the country's creditworthiness resulting in higher mortgage rates which will probably end up with thousands of people who can no longer afford their mortgage payments to be made homeless.

Completely misjudged the mood of the country and her own party.

Managed to find someone more right wing than Pritti Patel to be Home Secretary.

Excluded capable people from government if they hadn't backed her in the leadership election even going so far as to tell them that was the reason for them being replaced

Higher mortgage rates are inevitable if you leave a fixed term. Many are in that position. You are aware that the whole world is in the middle of f***ed up city . Com atm. It’s not just little old UK. Some though reckon changing the PM will make it better.
Somehow I doubt it and as I read on here maybe it is time for labour to get the helm. The issue will be though that the account will be empty and taxing and borrowing will be the only way they can give tons away to many undeserving liars who will invariably vote them in again. I should be okay though so basically I don’t give a s***

 

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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Oct 22 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Junked the country's creditworthiness resulting in higher mortgage rates which will probably end up with thousands of people who can no longer afford their mortgage payments to be made homeless.

Completely misjudged the mood of the country and her own party.

Managed to find someone more right wing than Pritti Patel to be Home Secretary.

Excluded capable people from government if they hadn't backed her in the leadership election even going so far as to tell them that was the reason for them being replaced

The speech at Conference really resonated with me and many others, in fact I found I was nodding in agreement with every jot and tittle.The delivery was eloquent,cerebral and passionate.
I bow at the temple of Suella Braverman.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Oct 22 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

The speech at Conference really resonated with me and many others, in fact I found I was nodding in agreement with every jot and tittle.

I noticed on the TV that many of the members were nodding but they seemed to be nodding off to sleep

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Oct 22 3.31pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I should be okay though so basically I don’t give a s***

Me too as I am mortgage free and have one year left on my fixed price energy deal but I do have kids that aren't quite so lucky in terms of their mortgages and didn't have the foresight to fix their energy deals despite me telling them for years to do so

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Oct 22 3.41pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Junked the country's creditworthiness resulting in higher mortgage rates which will probably end up with thousands of people who can no longer afford their mortgage payments to be made homeless.

Completely misjudged the mood of the country and her own party.

Managed to find someone more right wing than Pritti Patel to be Home Secretary.

Excluded capable people from government if they hadn't backed her in the leadership election even going so far as to tell them that was the reason for them being replaced


Yeah, but besides those 4 clangers, and todays second bail out by the bank of england- costing billions and billions- what has she actually done wrong in 6 weeks?

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 22 5.52pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I noticed on the TV that many of the members were nodding but they seemed to be nodding off to sleep

Wasn’t CP and WE on stage was it ?

 

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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 22 5.55pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud


Yeah, but besides those 4 clangers, and todays second bail out by the bank of england- costing billions and billions- what has she actually done wrong in 6 weeks?

It hasnt cost anyone billions at all. The BOE has taken the bonds at a reduced interest rate so still make a profit. Let’s hope they cash them in before labour get into power. Then they will be total junk .

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Oct 22 6.03pm

Originally posted by cryrst

It hasnt cost anyone billions at all. The BOE has taken the bonds at a reduced interest rate so still make a profit. Let’s hope they cash them in before labour get into power. Then they will be total junk .

Up to £ 300 billion I heard on the radio over the long term- oh well- you"re doing well lizzy dripping- keep it up!

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Oct 22 6.44pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

It hasnt cost anyone billions at all. The BOE has taken the bonds at a reduced interest rate so still make a profit. Let’s hope they cash them in before labour get into power. Then they will be total junk .

Are you seriously suggesting this is a good thing?

I am no expert on the gilts market but, if my understanding is correct, these are debts due to be repaid in 30 years or more, at interest rates above the market. Our children and grandchildren's future is being mortgaged because of a stupid government, who have also saddled us all with the need to pay interest.

It doesn't matter who is in power. They still need to be repaid.

The markets don't react for fun. They react when what is happening affects them. They obviously don't believe what this government is doing adds up. Most knowledgeable seem to agree.

You personally may not be affected as much as others. Nor will I. But we all are to some degree. That the world as a whole is also suffering doesn't excuse our government making things worse, rather than better.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 22 7.11pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Are you seriously suggesting this is a good thing?

I am no expert on the gilts market but, if my understanding is correct, these are debts due to be repaid in 30 years or more, at interest rates above the market. Our children and grandchildren's future is being mortgaged because of a stupid government, who have also saddled us all with the need to pay interest.

It doesn't matter who is in power. They still need to be repaid.

The markets don't react for fun. They react when what is happening affects them. They obviously don't believe what this government is doing adds up. Most knowledgeable seem to agree.

You personally may not be affected as much as others. Nor will I. But we all are to some degree. That the world as a whole is also suffering doesn't excuse our government making things worse, rather than better.

Go on then give us some long term figures of what could have been and what will be.

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Oct 22 7.45pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Go on then give us some long term figures of what could have been and what will be.

You need to ask a specialist economist for the detail.

Having a long term aim to lower taxation and increase economic activity is the desire of almost every government.

Doing it recklessly, without seemingly having either a clue how it will be paid for or caring too much, at a time when the country, and the whole world, is already struggling with the aftermaths of a pandemic and a war, and we have to cope with Brexit on top, is just irresponsible.

Truss managed to convince her "electorate" about her "plan". More fool them. No-one else was convinced and expected the usual, "now we have looked at the books" reigning back and postponements until "the time is right". No-one expected them just to go ahead at 100 mph into a cul de sac.

What was expected was a couple of morsels, to feed the prejudices of the Tories, but nothing on the scale that is proposed. It's unsustainable and will have to be reversed. Whether by this government, or a new one, remains to be seen.

The idea that in the current climate cutting taxes will stimulate growth is nuts. People need their tax cut, and more, just to stay where they were. Businesses won't invest in an unstable economy. Any money saved on corporation tax will likely flow overseas.

Trickle down economics is often seen by ambitious politicians as a way to stay popular. It has though been shown time and time again, not to work. It's a myth which has been firmly debunked.

What happens long term depends a lot on what happens short term. If we reverse this stupidity we can recover quite quickly. If we go on digging it will take a long time.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Oct 22 7.56pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You need to ask a specialist economist for the detail.

Having a long term aim to lower taxation and increase economic activity is the desire of almost every government.

Doing it recklessly, without seemingly having either a clue how it will be paid for or caring too much, at a time when the country, and the whole world, is already struggling with the aftermaths of a pandemic and a war, and we have to cope with Brexit on top, is just irresponsible.

Truss managed to convince her "electorate" about her "plan". More fool them. No-one else was convinced and expected the usual, "now we have looked at the books" reigning back and postponements until "the time is right". No-one expected them just to go ahead at 100 mph into a cul de sac.

What was expected was a couple of morsels, to feed the prejudices of the Tories, but nothing on the scale that is proposed. It's unsustainable and will have to be reversed. Whether by this government, or a new one, remains to be seen.

The idea that in the current climate cutting taxes will stimulate growth is nuts. People need their tax cut, and more, just to stay where they were. Businesses won't invest in an unstable economy. Any money saved on corporation tax will likely flow overseas.

Trickle down economics is often seen by ambitious politicians as a way to stay popular. It has though been shown time and time again, not to work. It's a myth which has been firmly debunked.

What happens long term depends a lot on what happens short term. If we reverse this stupidity we can recover quite quickly. If we go on digging it will take a long time.

So you can’t put any meat on the bone then. It seemed that you were stating economic facts with your reply but you were just using supposition and guesses!
Maybe a bit like playing to the crowd. Without these facts I don’t think a position of knowing more than anyone else can be garnered. Still at least we can all live in hope that one of us is correct!

 

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