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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jul 21 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

You want European only immigration from a select few countries. That means that half our squads’ parents would never have been allowed to come here. So they either wouldn’t exist as their parents would never have met or they wouldn’t have been allowed to set foot in this country.

That makes no sense.

Are you sure you don't just make the teas in the office?

 


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DanH Flag SW2 08 Jul 21 10.51pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

That makes no sense.

Are you sure you don't just make the teas in the office?

Of course it makes sense. It’s your worldview which doesn’t make sense and is completely unrealistic.

How would Raheem Sterling, our best player in the tournament so far, be able to play for England if his mum had never been able to immigrate from Jamaica?

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jul 21 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Of course it makes sense. It’s your worldview which doesn’t make sense and is completely unrealistic.

How would Raheem Sterling, our best player in the tournament so far, be able to play for England if his mum had never been able to immigrate from Jamaica?

I've already said my view is unrealistic....perhaps you aren't following.

What I queried was the line, 'very few of the squad would even exist'. Let me explain this to you Dan. People are the result of two genetic lines. Those people are not required to be in England for a child to be born. Your point seems to be more a simplistic stance on fate and existentialism than anything else....not that I think you consider those things.

Also I don't think I've never advocated for a ban on non Europeans ever setting foot in the country.....you just make hay with your assumptions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2021 11.05pm)

 


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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 08 Jul 21 11.29pm Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Not if you were born in England.

Who knows, who cares? All I know is I was born in 1984 and this Sunday, in 2021, I will most likely be in a pub, drenched in beer, arm in arm singing SWEET CAROLINE with whites, blacks, asians etc as my diverse and multicultural National Football Team lift the trophy.

It's Coming Home.

Edited by madcap_v2 (08 Jul 2021 11.29pm)

Edited by madcap_v2 (08 Jul 2021 11.30pm)

 


La la la your mum

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 08 Jul 21 11.36pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Who knows, who cares? All I know is I was born in 1984 and this Sunday, in 2021, I will most likely be in a pub, drenched in beer, arm in arm singing SWEET CAROLINE with whites, blacks, asians etc as my diverse and multicultural National Football Team lift the trophy.

It's Coming Home.

Edited by madcap_v2 (08 Jul 2021 11.29pm)

Edited by madcap_v2 (08 Jul 2021 11.30pm)

Shame you couldn’t post a picture to reflect that instead of that divisive crap you did post.

 

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madcap_v2 Flag SE25 / Ibiza 09 Jul 21 12.07am Send a Private Message to madcap_v2 Add madcap_v2 as a friend

What's divisive about it? Unless you're not an England fan...Come on England!!

 


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DanH Flag SW2 09 Jul 21 12.18am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

What's divisive about it? Unless you're not an England fan...Come on England!!

It’s divisive when you do it. Not when they post on here 24/7 about race issues.

 

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DanH Flag SW2 09 Jul 21 1.06am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I've already said my view is unrealistic....perhaps you aren't following.

What I queried was the line, 'very few of the squad would even exist'. Let me explain this to you Dan. People are the result of two genetic lines. Those people are not required to be in England for a child to be born. Your point seems to be more a simplistic stance on fate and existentialism than anything else....not that I think you consider those things.

Also I don't think I've never advocated for a ban on non Europeans ever setting foot in the country.....you just make hay with your assumptions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2021 11.05pm)

I don’t think you really truly know what it is you actually want. You’ve been so consumed with online right wing rhetoric your brain is muddled into thinking it wants some sort of old nostalgic England but not sure what that actually is.

And you’ve been left behind in a world that constantly adapts, changes and thrives with the times. This England team *is* England. Embrace it; it’s a lot of fun.

 

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dannyboy1978 Flag 09 Jul 21 6.21am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I don’t think you really truly know what it is you actually want. You’ve been so consumed with online right wing rhetoric your brain is muddled into thinking it wants some sort of old nostalgic England but not sure what that actually is.

And you’ve been left behind in a world that constantly adapts, changes and thrives with the times. This England team *is* England. Embrace it; it’s a lot of fun.

"Thrives with the times "

We have mass immigration to help the ecconomy yet r owe trillions of pounds for our troubles.
Embrace mass immigration everyone so we can build everywhere. [Link]

[Link]


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 Jul 21 6.37am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by madcap_v2

Whataboutery.

And I posted it because it's a particularly powerful image, given the current situation with the England players taking the knee for racial equality and I'm very proud of being a black Englishman. I thought blacks being proud of being part of this nation, was a big positive, no?


Edited by madcap_v2 (08 Jul 2021 9.55pm)


Of course you should be proud to be a black Englishman and being part of this nation. You obviously don’t want to answer my point, but that is your prerogative, imo the poster was antagonist and unnecessary, as anyone watching the football ( and knows anything about the game) would be fully aware of the contribution made by those on the poster. Personally the colour of a players skin does not cross my mind when I am watching a game, to me they are just players. If choose not to believe then fine, your choice.
I must admit I thiught the taking of the knee was for all forms of equality/prejudice, not just racial, I stand corrected

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Edited by Spiderman (09 Jul 2021 6.46am)

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 09 Jul 21 9.13am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I don’t think you really truly know what it is you actually want. You’ve been so consumed with online right wing rhetoric your brain is muddled into thinking it wants some sort of old nostalgic England but not sure what that actually is.

And you’ve been left behind in a world that constantly adapts, changes and thrives with the times. This England team *is* England. Embrace it; it’s a lot of fun.

I think what's more true is that you find it hard to understand different perspectives so you choose to demonise them instead.

You think you like diversity but you want everyone to feel the same about a society that you aren't actually living in Mr Essex.

You aren't that interested in the reality of your ideas and their outcomes you're far more interested in the dream.

 


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Slimey Toad Flag Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 09 Jul 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to Slimey Toad Add Slimey Toad as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Serious question, and generalising. Why do you believe blacks do so well at running and jumping and music but not at academia or business?

Serious question if you care to take it on.

Do you remember in the 80s when the West Indies ruled cricket? There was a news item on the BBC asking why their pace bowlers were so lethal and one suggestion was that West Indians had thin pelvises, which gave them more body flexibility.


Seriously, and it wasn't April the 1st either!

 

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