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W12 20 Nov 20 1.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That diatribe could have been copied and pasted from one of the Trump-supporting forums I keep an eye on. They are full of evidenceless assertions such as these, which bear no resemblance to the known facts. I am constantly surprised at the level of gullibility on display in the USA and the way people have become conditioned to accepting this kind of thing without any actual evidence. I am though very disappointed to see it being promoted in the UK. Surely we are more objective and level headed than this? Refuting a lack of evidence with no evidence. You are a clown.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 20 1.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That’s my shock of the day over nice and early. I have read it again and my initial impression was confirmed. This is a very narrow definition of what the writer seeks to consider as a "white" culture and it fails on several levels. Firstly it only addresses the USA. Now I realise that for many Americans the world doesn't exist anywhere beyond their own county line, let alone outside the USA, but come on, we know better. Even though within the USA it's impossible to claim that a Trump supporter and Biden supporter, both with the same skin colour, share a culture. They share aspects, but they also share some with people who have different skin colours. Extend that elsewhere and it's impossible to suggest that Fins, Danes, Swedes, Germans, French, Brits, etc share a culture. Go further and include some Russians and the idea becomes even less appealing. What about the Spanish and the Italians. Do they qualify? Then look at the Greeks and Turks. Not much culture sharing there. If you don't include the latter countries what does that say about the very attempt to define people by their skin colour? Are we back to considering whether people are Aryan or not? I hope not.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 20 1.19pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
Refuting a lack of evidence with no evidence. You are a clown. There is heaps and heaps of evidence provided by trustworthy sources with records that have stood the test of time as being reliable witnesses. If enough of them say these things are nonsense then I believe them over claims made by people with a history of making assertions which are subsequently debunked as untrue. Time alone will prove the truth, although there will doubtless be many who will go to their grave claiming it was all a fix. That's sad but for the majority it will be enough.
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 1.23pm | |
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Originally posted by W12
Refuting a lack of evidence with no evidence. You are a clown. Doesn't it make you both clowns?
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Spiderman Horsham 20 Nov 20 1.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
There is heaps and heaps of evidence provided by trustworthy sources with records that have stood the test of time as being reliable witnesses. If enough of them say these things are nonsense then I believe them over claims made by people with a history of making assertions which are subsequently debunked as untrue. Time alone will prove the truth, although there will doubtless be many who will go to their grave claiming it was all a fix. That's sad but for the majority it will be enough. But IF true, there will be those who will never accept that outcome. Not saying it is going to happen but there would be those
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 20 Nov 20 1.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
But IF true, there will be those who will never accept that outcome. Not saying it is going to happen but there would be those I'd accept it. Because it would therefore have to be based on actual, credible and verifiable evidence, plus a ruling by the court system. Not accepting that outcome is ultimately as stupid as believing in unproven hearsay in the first place.
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Teddy Eagle 20 Nov 20 1.36pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have read it again and my initial impression was confirmed. This is a very narrow definition of what the writer seeks to consider as a "white" culture and it fails on several levels. Firstly it only addresses the USA. Now I realise that for many Americans the world doesn't exist anywhere beyond their own county line, let alone outside the USA, but come on, we know better. Even though within the USA it's impossible to claim that a Trump supporter and Biden supporter, both with the same skin colour, share a culture. They share aspects, but they also share some with people who have different skin colours. Extend that elsewhere and it's impossible to suggest that Fins, Danes, Swedes, Germans, French, Brits, etc share a culture. Go further and include some Russians and the idea becomes even less appealing. What about the Spanish and the Italians. Do they qualify? Then look at the Greeks and Turks. Not much culture sharing there. If you don't include the latter countries what does that say about the very attempt to define people by their skin colour? Are we back to considering whether people are Aryan or not? I hope not. Godwin’s Law in action.
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steeleye20 Croydon 20 Nov 20 1.38pm | |
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If anything, voter fraud will favour Biden even more, as Trump denied the vote to people less likely to vote for him. That model is being copied by the conservative party here. You cannot actually make any impact impersonating anyone, it is only one vote, anything more would have to involve hundreds if not thousands. But you can if you deny your opponents their right to vote in the first place.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 20 1.48pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Godwin’s Law in action. I didn't mention Hitler did I? I mentioned one of the attitudes which circulated during the 1930s. Having never been to Japan I am unqualified to comment on Japanese culture, although at first sight there seem to be things that are uniquely Japanese.
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Spiderman Horsham 20 Nov 20 1.51pm | |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
I'd accept it. Because it would therefore have to be based on actual, credible and verifiable evidence, plus a ruling by the court system. Not accepting that outcome is ultimately as stupid as believing in unproven hearsay in the first place. Indeed. It was a hypothetical question, as ain’t going to happen
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Teddy Eagle 20 Nov 20 2.02pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I didn't mention Hitler did I? I mentioned one of the attitudes which circulated during the 1930s. Having never been to Japan I am unqualified to comment on Japanese culture, although at first sight there seem to be things that are uniquely Japanese. You didn’t mention the 1930s either. Maybe you were referencing someone else’s theories on Aryan people.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Nov 20 2.43pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
You didn’t mention the 1930s either. Maybe you were referencing someone else’s theories on Aryan people. Despite rumours to the contrary, I wasn't around in the 1930s but from all I know the theories on Aryan supremacy had been promoted by a variety of people for a while, and were widely accepted among certain groups. Not all of whom were German. That these theories came to prominence in the 1930s and caused the consequences they did are matters of historical record. A record I trust none of us wishes to see repeated.
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