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Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Aug 23 8.34pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup

It would make a lot of sense for everyone if he signed for either City or Chelsea and was immediately loaned back to us for this season. He would get regular match time, keep him in the frame for France, get a dream move, and it would certainly help us.

Win/win, always good.

If he went to Chelsea wouldn't the Hall loan deal stop that happening?

 
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CPFC1965 Flag Warrington 08 Aug 23 10.51pm Send a Private Message to CPFC1965 Add CPFC1965 as a friend

If there is a £35m release clause do we have to accept it or can we go for a bidding war between Chelsea, City and others, just curious.

 
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dreamwaverider Flag London 08 Aug 23 11.19pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC1965

If there is a £35m release clause do we have to accept it or can we go for a bidding war between Chelsea, City and others, just curious.

Depends what it says, and we are not about to find out.
Normally it would be the players call. They can go to the club of their choice who is offering the release agreed figure. If there is more than one club offering the release amount, then obviously the player will choose which one he wants, e.g. the best offer to him. So no bidding war on the transfer fee.
In Olise case, there is talk that the release clause was removed for a higher salary last year. But who knows. And neither Olise or Palace seem to want to go public on it.
My guess is that it was removed.
Palace never share much with the public/fans. It's entirely their call.
And as we all know, Olise never has much to say about anything.!
'Got the ball, shot , scored.'

Edited by dreamwaverider (08 Aug 2023 11.22pm)

 
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pssguy Flag 08 Aug 23 11.28pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Depends what it says, and we are not about to find out.
Normally it would be the players call. They can go to the club of their choice who is offering the release agreed figure. If there is more than one club offering the release amount, then obviously the player will choose which one he wants, e.g. the best offer to him. So no bidding war on the transfer fee.
In Olise case, there is talk that the release clause was removed for a higher salary last year. But who knows. And neither Olise or Palace seem to want to go public on it.
My guess is that it was removed.
Palace never share much with the public/fans. It's entirely their call.
And as we all know, Olise never has much to say about anything.!
'Got the ball, shot , scored.'

Edited by dreamwaverider (08 Aug 2023 11.22pm)

Thanks for this. So if Chelsea offer the release clause but City offer double that too bad for Palace if Olise prefers Chelsea, presumably. Also, do you know whether there is any limit on when bids can be made and Olise confirming his choice? 11:59 p.m. on deadline day would not be ideal

 
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dreamwaverider Flag London 09 Aug 23 3.25am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Thanks for this. So if Chelsea offer the release clause but City offer double that too bad for Palace if Olise prefers Chelsea, presumably. Also, do you know whether there is any limit on when bids can be made and Olise confirming his choice? 11:59 p.m. on deadline day would not be ideal

Like any transfer, right up to the deadline.Release clauses are not good for selling clubs for this reason. We could suddenly be left in the lurch at the very last minute of transfer deadline. However, they do get you players in cheap initially. It works better for nimble fast moving clubs in the transfer market, which judging by our history, we are not.

Fingers crossed, firstly Olise injury will worry clubs to strike, but secondly and more importantly Im hoping the rumour that the release clause was removed is factual. it was definitely rumoured this time last year.

If there is no release clause in place, we would be well advised to keep him this coming season, then look to out him next summer for top dollar.

As a club, we tend to hang on to our players too long and let them leave for nothing at the end of their contracts which is obviously bad business. The exception is of course wan Bassaka. But who am i to say? Overall Parish has worked wonders for us as Chairman so far.
The Sky contracts have developed this way of player contracts which gives less wheeler dealer clubs like us a huge cushion to survive the end of contract fall outs we have witnessed that the Bosman/employment contract law created. Zaha, Benteke, Sako, Luka, Macca etc.

 
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southnorwoodhill Flag 09 Aug 23 7.00am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Parish's business model was total give run of the mill, competent (mainly) professionals a decent wage at a club where all they had to do was ensure PL football. These players weren't going to be picked up by top 6 clubs unless they did something truly exceptional, and so they had it good at the Palace as long as they did the job.
Now the business model is to scout younger talent with the hope that the potential will come good and to sell on at a profit. It seems to me therefore that will become a selling club and never have anyone decent around long enough to create a team that will challenge for the upper half of the league, or look like a Palace team that one can recognise.
What has all this to do with Olise? Everything. We've had one good season from him where he has shown his obvious potential and now there's talk in some quarters that he's off. Parish's next tep is to figure out how to retain the likes of Olise and Eze, at least to that point whereby maximum monetary value can be claimed in transfer fees, and show some ambition for higher placed league finishes. Not easy I know...

Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 7.59am)

 
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Bearcage Flag Welling 09 Aug 23 7.55am Send a Private Message to Bearcage Add Bearcage as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Parish's business model was total give run of the mill, competent (mainly) professionals a decent wage at a club where all they had to do was ensure PL football. These players weren't going to be picked up by top 6 clubs unless they did something truly exceptional, and so they had it good at the Palace as long as they did the job.
Now the business model is to scout younger talent with the hope that the potential will come good and to sell on at a profit. It seems to me therefore that will become a selling club and never have anyone decent around long enough to create a team that will challenge for the upper half of the league, or look like a Palace team that one can recognise.

You attract the young talent if they see you as a stepping stone to the elite, as you close the gap to the elite (not an instant thing) players will choose to stay.
Currently we haven’t the success or resources to kept the best of who we bring in, if we try to force them to stay it’ll get harder to attract their replacements.

Edited by Bearcage (09 Aug 2023 7.56am)

 
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southnorwoodhill Flag 09 Aug 23 8.01am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Bearcage

You attract the young talent if they see you as a stepping stone to the elite, as you close the gap to the elite (not an instant thing) players will choose to stay.
Currently we haven’t the success or resources to kept the best of who we bring in, if we try to force them to stay it’ll get harder to attract their replacements.

Edited by Bearcage (09 Aug 2023 7.56am)

Indeed, and that is Parish's dilemma. He just doesn't have the monetary resources to push this project on.

 
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The Beger Flag Croydon 09 Aug 23 9.31am Send a Private Message to The Beger Add The Beger as a friend

"So the Michael Olise release clause ... understand that it is actually slightly more than £35m that has been widely quoted and is also complicated by some slightly unusual terms set by player. They include Olise being able to turn down a move even if the clause is triggered"

Ed Aarons

 

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The Dolphin Flag 09 Aug 23 9.42am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

It is interesting.
My view is as follows - assuming that there is a clause.
HE doesn't have to leave anyway even if the clause is triggered - the ball is in his court.
He said not long agao - I heard - that he was happy at Palace because he was playing week in, week out and that matters to him.
If he has a good season with us when fit then he can then leave, for say £35m and probably get a big fee from the buying club on top of that.
I see him staying and building his reputation for another season and then he will be gone next summer.

 
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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Aug 23 9.45am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by The Beger

"So the Michael Olise release clause ... understand that it is actually slightly more than £35m that has been widely quoted and is also complicated by some slightly unusual terms set by player. They include Olise being able to turn down a move even if the clause is triggered"

Ed Aarons

What's unusual about that, you can't force a player to leave release clause or not.

 

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doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 09 Aug 23 10.05am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by The Beger

"So the Michael Olise release clause ... understand that it is actually slightly more than £35m that has been widely quoted and is also complicated by some slightly unusual terms set by player. They include Olise being able to turn down a move even if the clause is triggered"

Ed Aarons

1. This confirms Hodgson's statement that it was Olise's decision whether to stay or go.
2. I wonder what the other slightly unusual terms are.
3. Olise is one shrewd cookie.

 
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