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 Behind Enemy Lines  Sussex 13 Jul 24 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What you wrote was “Our culture used to include slave ownership; I miss those times. Apparently I should feel ashamed and not honour it.” Nothing there to suggest you were proud of being the first to outlaw it, which is something we all can be proud of. None of us should take any pleasure from the knowledge that our forefathers benefited from regarding other humans as animals. Understanding the culture of the time is different. We all learn and they did. Let’s hope that you are included in that. You wrote “No one will annihilate our culture. It will survive and gradually be adopted by all successive generations. It’s what happens. Retention of past culture will be there too, because people honour their heritage but that’s not a threat. It’s an enrichment.”
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| Spiderman Horsham 13 Jul 24 6.01pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a pathetic argument. Brexit has nothing to do with the multiple issues caused by mass immigration. Yep started by Blair. I had first hand experience of his policy, as I was working as a Visa Officer when he decided to make the UK more multi cultural
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Well, you did at 08.23 today. You only mention something when it suits you & then decry it when you get called out. You're a fake & a troll. Go away. I didn’t mention Brexit! I mentioned what you voted for in 2016 in the context of why we are in a mess, in response to the idea that immigration is responsible. In the context what has happened as a consequence of Brexit it cannot be ignored, but wasn’t the subject. The mess was.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If you wouldn't get involved why expect others to do so? I don’t necessarily. It depends on the type of community what involvement any perceived leader might have. In my case our bowling community looks out for each other, giving support when appropriate and making sure people are included. In others leaders will be there to offer advice and counselling. Some go much further than that and are central to people’s lives.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 6.26pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
You wrote “No one will annihilate our culture. It will survive and gradually be adopted by all successive generations. It’s what happens. Retention of past culture will be there too, because people honour their heritage but that’s not a threat. It’s an enrichment.” Then you misread my response then because I don’t detect a hint of parody in a statement for which there is only one interpretation. Which had nothing at all to do with what is quoted from me above. We will all be enriched. The difference is that some of us recognise that and some don’t.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
How has EU membership helped the situation in Germany, France, Italy, etc? That’s like asking “what have the Romans ever done for us?” You mean beyond establishing common standards and avoiding duplication? Establishing border less internal travel and the free movement of goods and people? Establishing strength in trading negotiations by virtue of market size? Cooperation in areas of scientific research? Besides such things, not a lot.
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| Spiderman Horsham 13 Jul 24 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That’s like asking “what have the Romans ever done for us?” You mean beyond establishing common standards and avoiding duplication? Establishing border less internal travel and the free movement of goods and people? Establishing strength in trading negotiations by virtue of market size? Cooperation in areas of scientific research? Besides such things, not a lot. You think border less internal travel has helped the situation in Germany, France? Jeez Edited by Spiderman (13 Jul 2024 7.01pm)
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 13 Jul 24 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
You think border less internal travel has helped the situation in Germany, France? Jeez Edited by Spiderman (13 Jul 2024 7.01pm) Indeed. The sub-contracting of border control to the furthest eastern fringes of the EU, over which you have little influence and control, is why free movement is such a problem. A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link; if it breaks the whole concept collapses, and note that our esteemed colleague as at one of the furthest points away from it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 13 Jul 24 7.46pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
You think border less internal travel has helped the situation in Germany, France? Jeez Edited by Spiderman (13 Jul 2024 7.01pm) I see that as a separate issue. Controlling the external border effectively is obviously important. Putin trying to stir up problem by facilitating illegal migrants is just what he does. Overall the free movement of people and goods across the EU has made life much simpler for people. Look at all those Netherland fans on Weds evening just flooding into Germany. As I am sure you have, driving across Europe is now so simple. It aids trade and removes barriers.
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| Spiderman Horsham 13 Jul 24 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I see that as a separate issue. Controlling the external border effectively is obviously important. Putin trying to stir up problem by facilitating illegal migrants is just what he does. Overall the free movement of people and goods across the EU has made life much simpler for people. Look at all those Netherland fans on Weds evening just flooding into Germany. As I am sure you have, driving across Europe is now so simple. It aids trade and removes barriers. So you think illegal migrants entering Greece/Italy should be allowed to travel throughout Europe with no documentation, as there are no checks. Hardly the same scenario as thousands of legitimate Dutch nationals going to a football match
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| Stirlingsays 13 Jul 24 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Those bloody Scots get everywhere. It's the oats.
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Teddy Eagle  13 Jul 24 8.41pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That’s like asking “what have the Romans ever done for us?” You mean beyond establishing common standards and avoiding duplication? Establishing border less internal travel and the free movement of goods and people? Establishing strength in trading negotiations by virtue of market size? Cooperation in areas of scientific research? Besides such things, not a lot. Nice attempted deflection but as to the current discussion? Germany has a far bigger immigration problem than we do. How has their EU membership helped?
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