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A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 28 Dec 22 11.37am Send a Private Message to A1969Eagle Add A1969Eagle as a friend

We all thought Palace team looked tired.
Is PV still asking the players to do double training sessions?
PV needs to learn faster... we were poor tactically at Everton, Forest and now with Fulham. I personally thought we struggled at home against Soton and if they had a goal scorer, they would have won. How was in the 1st half against Wolves - pretty bad!!
When we went to WHam, we played like Fulham did, in their faces from the off, but against Fulham we look tired. Straight away Fulham went man to man tactics which they eased off on, but rattled out team. It was clear, PV should have subbed Tompkins in 1st half, but our PV appears to be an over cautious manager, and like Roy was, predictable with Subs, too late too.
Wilf as centre forward at home. Just because it worked away ie LFC this season/ Man City last season, its very different at home
To date in seeing personally our games this season, we have over achieved, we have become "predictable"
BE BRAVE PV, bring on our young players, and players like Kofi Balmer on the bench!! Now he has impressed me with a "cool" head

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Dec 22 12.20pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

We all thought Palace team looked tired.
Is PV still asking the players to do double training sessions?
PV needs to learn faster... we were poor tactically at Everton, Forest and now with Fulham. I personally thought we struggled at home against Soton and if they had a goal scorer, they would have won. How was in the 1st half against Wolves - pretty bad!!
When we went to WHam, we played like Fulham did, in their faces from the off, but against Fulham we look tired. Straight away Fulham went man to man tactics which they eased off on, but rattled out team. It was clear, PV should have subbed Tompkins in 1st half, but our PV appears to be an over cautious manager, and like Roy was, predictable with Subs, too late too.
Wilf as centre forward at home. Just because it worked away ie LFC this season/ Man City last season, its very different at home
To date in seeing personally our games this season, we have over achieved, we have become "predictable"
BE BRAVE PV, bring on our young players, and players like Kofi Balmer on the bench!! Now he has impressed me with a "cool" head

We are predictable because we only have around eleven half decent players. We don't have any game changers or leeway for injuries or suspensions. Fulham game, Guehi out - look what happened. Our squad was a problem since the beginning of the season. Add in under performers or want aways and this is what we get.
Bournemouth are going to go for it from the off and who can blame them?

 


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dreamwaverider Flag London 28 Dec 22 12.22pm Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

Are you a golfer?

No. But my trouble is I’m always a half glass full lad.
We are such an inconsistent team that I can’t help looking at ‘what ifs’. Better for me than ffs which I blurted out regularly on Saturday

 

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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 28 Dec 22 3.10pm Send a Private Message to Phil’s Barber Add Phil’s Barber as a friend

Originally posted by Croydon-Trucker

Was just watching REF watch there , Dermot Gallagher said that the refs veiw must have been shielded saw Tompkins arm coming up and that cvnt Mitrovic going down clutching his face , his arm was clearly no-where near his face .The Ref knew what he was doing also because by showing the yellow first VAR couldnt get involved as they can only get involved in straight reds . both commentators said no way a yellow.

Having watched the tv footage a number of times now you can clearly see the arm of Tomkins extends as he turns round to shield the ball. It is NOT an elbow and his forearm clearly catches Mitrovic on the neck / under the chin. Mitrovic immediately collapses to the floor clutching first his face, then his right eye. No contact was made anywhere near either of those two areas. He is a cheat and contrived to get Tomkins sent off.

 

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PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 28 Dec 22 3.33pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Having watched the Fulham game and today I watched the highlights of the Man U v N.Forest game I am confused. In my younger days I was a qualified referee with the Surrey FA and I no longer have any idea what the hand ball law is any more as Fulham were awarded a goal after a clear and obvious handball and Forest had a goal disallowed and the two were similar.
Can anyone help!

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 22 3.38pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Having watched the Fulham game and today I watched the highlights of the Man U v N.Forest game I am confused. In my younger days I was a qualified referee with the Surrey FA and I no longer have any idea what the hand ball law is any more as Fulham were awarded a goal after a clear and obvious handball and Forest had a goal disallowed and the two were similar.
Can anyone help!

I have not seen the Nottm Forest incident.In terms of Fulham's second goal,the ball clearly hit Mitrovic's hand but it was deemed "accidental" and as he was not the player who scored, the goal was allowed to stand.

I have just perused the following :

"After initial question marks over whether or not it struck his arm, the goal was actually ruled out for offside after a touch from Willy Boly at the back post. He had strayed into an offside position as VAR stepped in for its routine check, meaning United saw their clean sheet preserved at that time in the showdown"

Edited by Willo (28 Dec 2022 3.41pm)

 

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PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 28 Dec 22 3.48pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

So you are saying a ball "accidentally" diverted to a team mate by a hand who then scores it's OK.?

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Dec 22 4.01pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

So you are saying a ball "accidentally" diverted to a team mate by a hand who then scores it's OK.?

If an attacking player’s accidental handball immediately precedes another player scoring, the goal will now be awarded and not disallowed.

However, a player will still be penalised if he commits an accidental handball immediately before scoring himself.

 

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PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 28 Dec 22 4.06pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Well if that's true then it's a bleddy joke.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Dec 22 4.12pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

Well if that's true then it's a bleddy joke.

Refereeing against us seems to be a bit of a joke most games. The Fulham game-plan's main contributor was the ref.

 


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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 28 Dec 22 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

We are predictable because we only have around eleven half decent players. We don't have any game changers or leeway for injuries or suspensions. Fulham game, Guehi out - look what happened. Our squad was a problem since the beginning of the season. Add in under performers or want aways and this is what we get.
Bournemouth are going to go for it from the off and who can blame them?

No, we are predictable because we signal the ineffective tactics we employ and have our most creative players to deep as a result

 


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Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

No, we are predictable because we signal the ineffective tactics we employ and have our most creative players to deep as a result

I think you can criticise the tactics, as not getting enough from the players. Particularly out of position ones.
However, if a manager is to implement tactics then he also needs the tools. Our personnel just aren't that good - and it gets worse past the relatively predictable, first eleven. Someone needs to play along side Doucoure, at least sometimes, particularly if we are against teams trying to exploit how weak we are down the middle. I guess it has to be Hughes or Luka but it hardly fills me with confidence. Add in having no real striker and the problems get worse.

 


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