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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Mar 23 10.51pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I ‘consider’ legal action quite often. For example when someone doesn’t pick up their dog poo.

The ones that annoy me here are those who pick it up and then leave the bags by a gate, or the side of the footpath. Who on earth do they think is going to pick that up?

 


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The groover Flag Danbury 01 Mar 23 10.54pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Here's an interesting thing that someone on here may be able to shed some light on...

Today, after several months of ill health, surgery and various subsequent investigations, I got a letter from the NHS advising me that they are sending me a pack of Rapid Lateral Flow tests, and that if I feel any Covid symptoms I am to test for up to 3 consecutive days (if first and subsequent tests are negative and I still feel unwell), as I have been deemed eligible for treatment for Covid if I should contract it.

What the heck is that all about and what is this undefined treatment, I wonder?

As a totally unvaccinated person (medical reasons) should I even be eligible?

The latest covid seems to take a few days to be picked up by the tests. A few of us tested neg twice then pos.

 

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The groover Flag Danbury 01 Mar 23 10.55pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

And covid is little more than a common cold

Is this a joke? Or have you been a bunker for 2 years!

 

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The groover Flag Danbury 01 Mar 23 10.57pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Always? No.

But it does work.

The diseases you mention were most definitely combated by herd immunity, that's why you still exist.

A vaccine is a defanged version to train the very best response an immune system can provide. However, for respiratory illness they have always been rather crap at that level of protection and to be honest I'm not even sure that what's been provided even fits what should be called a vaccine.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Mar 2023 2.15pm)

Except Covid is not a respiratory illness. Its Hemo.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Mar 23 4.11am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This made me smile!

You are not only predicable. You are also consistent. Consistently wrong. You are as one eyed as a Cyclopes.

The mainstream media didn't "ban" anything. The MSM is very diverse, and I remember these theories being covered along with others. No-body knew then, just as no-body knows now. That the FBI have speculated doesn't mean it's true. There are lots of possibilities held by a variety of people, including other US agencies.

Of course, that doesn't stop you and your like, trumpeting it as the "truth" just because it matches your prejudices. I suggest you read this report, which is both fair and objective. Don't dismiss it just because of its source:-

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So all you are doing now is what the basement boys did in 2020. Jumping on a theory and promoting as the "truth".

It just isn't. It's possibly true.

Cryst raised Trump, not me. You agreed with him. I responded because he jumped on, and spread this theory as though it was fact, which gave it authenticity in some minds, yours included it seems.

Once again, those who remember how the lab leak theory was treated and greeted on both the mainstream media and by official scientific outlets will read your words and decide for themselves how well they reflect reality.

Just as they can treat your suggestion that there is any realistic doubt on the origin of this virus. Only someone practiced in denying the obvious would suggest it.

There was a less than one percent to five percent chance of dying of covid depending upon which group someone was in. I would purport the view that this is a higher percentage chance than the suggestion that covid didn't come from the wuhan lab.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Mar 2023 4.17am)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 02 Mar 23 4.29am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

Except Covid is not a respiratory illness. Its Hemo.

I'm not saying that covid doesn't have other affects because it does but I think it's unrealistic to say that covid doesn't affect the respiratory system. As most people will know it from its affects on their respiratory system I think it's fine to describe it thus.


 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 02 Mar 23 7.37am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

More text messages revealed between Hancock and 'Sir' Gavin Williamson, discussing whether to re-open schools.

"Boris Johnson has awarded a knighthood to Gavin Williamson, despite a ministerial record that includes the Covid exams debacle as education secretary and being sacked as defence secretary for allegedly leaking secure information.

The news prompted anger from opposition parties, with Labour calling Williamson’s record “disgraceful”. The Liberal Democrats called the knighthood “an insult to every child, parent and teacher who struggled through Covid against the odds”. (Guardian, 3.3.2022)

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 02 Mar 23 7.43am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

"Cracking announcement today," wrote Mr Hancock to Sir Gavin. "What a bunch of absolute arses the teaching unions are."

Sir Gavin replied: "I know they really really do just hate work."

 


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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 02 Mar 23 8.12am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Hancock is shown to be a bigger tool with every message.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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The groover Flag Danbury 02 Mar 23 9.22am Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm not saying that covid doesn't have other affects because it does but I think it's unrealistic to say that covid doesn't affect the respiratory system. As most people will know it from its affects on their respiratory system I think it's fine to describe it thus.


I never said it doesn't affect the respiratory system.

It affects the respiratory system because it effectively thickens the blood. Thus the extremities of the lungs get clogged. Which is why it was first believed to be respiratory.

This is also why it causes other issues. Heart attacks, strokes, liver, kidney, pancreas etc. The blood supply to organs is also affected.

You will note we not longer see people on respirators facing down.

The statement that 'it's just a cold' would make the consultants I worked with want to kick that person in the arse!

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Mar 23 9.51am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Once again, those who remember how the lab leak theory was treated and greeted on both the mainstream media and by official scientific outlets will read your words and decide for themselves how well they reflect reality.

Just as they can treat your suggestion that there is any realistic doubt on the origin of this virus. Only someone practiced in denying the obvious would suggest it.

There was a less than one percent to five percent chance of dying of covid depending upon which group someone was in. I would purport the view that this is a higher percentage chance than the suggestion that covid didn't come from the wuhan lab.

Edited by Stirlingsays (02 Mar 2023 4.17am)

I am perfectly content that those with an unselective memory will recall correctly. Those with an agenda, like yourself, won't. The "lab theory" was considered objectively and never dismissed because it is obviously a possible cause. It just was, and remains, unproven.

More interesting than the fact that the FBI regards this as the most likely explanation, which is far from new, is why they and Wray, are giving it oxygen now. For me this is geopolitics. Adding weight to the negative balance for China at a time when they might be about to support Russia with weapons. Winding up people like you, so they start to point accusing fingers again, declaring that this "proves" they were responsible, is all just part of it. You are a pawn in a side game on the world stage.

Whether this really was the cause is unlikely to ever be known, unless China decides to tell us. They don't generally do such things. If the FBI believes, based on logical supposition, that it's the most likely explanation I see no reason to disagree but some others do. There is no actual evidence, so reasonable doubt exists and declarations of truth are inappropriate.

Having between a 1% and 5% chance of dying from a Covid infection was bad enough, but that was never the biggest problem. It was always the risk of our health services becoming overwhelmed with those needing hospital admission as a consequence of Covid that necessitated extreme measures to reduce the transmission rate until the vaccines were ready. You, of course, know better. You know the "truth"!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 02 Mar 23 10.05am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Hancock is shown to be a bigger tool with every message.

I have some personal experiences involving both Hancock and Johnson which confirm, without the slightest doubt, that both are "tools", with Johnson by far the biggest one.

That said I don't believe what is going on at the moment is either reasonable or objective. They were difficult days, with insufficient resources, a severe lack of knowledge, competing demands and threats everywhere. Whatever decisions were taken would have left holes somewhere else which could later be criticised for a lack of attention.

We really need to be patient and wait for the cool-headed, objective analysis of the enquiry so that the lessons it teaches can be learned. Picking out a few message exchanges during a time of crisis just titillates the prejudices of those whose minds are already made up.

 


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