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PJEagle London 18 Apr 23 8.26am
Originally posted by doombear I don't see Parish letting both go this summer. As much as one might like the profit to be made, there is also the question of PL status. If you weaken your squad by selling proven PL players, you risk relegation. It's alright saying - "we have money to invest in new players" but you can't guarantee they'll make the grade. We have been very lucky in the main with the young first team players we've picked up over the last 2-3 years but the PL is littered with expensive flops. Turning to your valuations, clickbait has suggested in the past that Spurs might pay £40m for Guehi. I don't see Levy going much higher than that (say £45m). As for Olise, who knows? The lad is potentially a sensation. I would hope Parish will see the potential and recognize that by holding on to him for another year at least he could get a lot more for him - and I mean really serious money (Didn't Man U pay £70m for Anthony, as did Arsenal for Pepe? Olise could go for more than that if he turns into an assists machine with a few goals thrown in). Edited by doombear (13 Apr 2023 10.41am) I like to think (hope) that Parish has big ambitions for Palace. I hope that he wants to hold on to his top players. If we do, then a top 8 finish is possible next season? After that, top talent from our academy should be ready to come in to the first team squad. This hopefully will include promising young strikers like Umeh. I think our ambition should be to become South London's Arsenal. There's a huge reservoir of talent out there, and hopefully the best of this will flourish in our state of the art academy. Is this a pipe dream? Not for me, but I'll let other posters on HOL to decide!
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London 18 Apr 23 8.26am

Originally posted by doombear

I don't see Parish letting both go this summer. As much as one might like the profit to be made, there is also the question of PL status. If you weaken your squad by selling proven PL players, you risk relegation. It's alright saying - "we have money to invest in new players" but you can't guarantee they'll make the grade. We have been very lucky in the main with the young first team players we've picked up over the last 2-3 years but the PL is littered with expensive flops.

Turning to your valuations, clickbait has suggested in the past that Spurs might pay £40m for Guehi. I don't see Levy going much higher than that (say £45m). As for Olise, who knows? The lad is potentially a sensation. I would hope Parish will see the potential and recognize that by holding on to him for another year at least he could get a lot more for him - and I mean really serious money (Didn't Man U pay £70m for Anthony, as did Arsenal for Pepe? Olise could go for more than that if he turns into an assists machine with a few goals thrown in).

Edited by doombear (13 Apr 2023 10.41am)

I like to think (hope) that Parish has big ambitions for Palace. I hope that he wants to hold on to his top players. If we do, then a top 8 finish is possible next season? After that, top talent from our academy should be ready to come in to the first team squad. This hopefully will include promising young strikers like Umeh. I think our ambition should be to become South London's Arsenal. There's a huge reservoir of talent out there, and hopefully the best of this will flourish in our state of the art academy. Is this a pipe dream? Not for me, but I'll let other posters on HOL to decide!

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palace99 New Mills 18 Apr 23 11.56am
Originally posted by thai-eagle What about his assist ratio then? If he and Eze get a season together they might end up leaving together. But then we are talking about 150 mill. plus. They are that good.... i've mentioned that Olise doesn't score enough and you've ignored this and mentioned his assists. That's called deflection. On that point Arsenal have a youngster called Saka who is the same age as Olise. I believe he has double digit goals and assists this season. That's the benchmark Olise needs to aspire to. As Saka showed against us a few weeks ago he is miles ahead of Olise. He is not that good yet ... but clearly has the potential to get there
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New Mills 18 Apr 23 11.56am

Originally posted by thai-eagle

What about his assist ratio then? If he and Eze get a season together they might end up leaving together. But then we are talking about 150 mill. plus. They are that good....

i've mentioned that Olise doesn't score enough and you've ignored this and mentioned his assists. That's called deflection.
On that point Arsenal have a youngster called Saka who is the same age as Olise. I believe he has double digit goals and assists this season.
That's the benchmark Olise needs to aspire to. As Saka showed against us a few weeks ago he is miles ahead of Olise. He is not that good yet ... but clearly has the potential to get there

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mileend East London 18 Apr 23 10.09pm
Back to the loanees Rak-Saki bounced back to provide the assist for the only goal of the game Killian Phillips scored a consolation for Shrewsbury so he is increasing his goal tally nicely Not sure there is much else to mention except that John-Kymani Gordon played 90 minutes for Carlisle in their 2-2 draw against fellow promotion hopefuls Stockport. No goal or assist but good to see his back in first team action.
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East London 18 Apr 23 10.09pm

Back to the loanees

Rak-Saki bounced back to provide the assist for the only goal of the game
Killian Phillips scored a consolation for Shrewsbury so he is increasing his goal tally nicely
Not sure there is much else to mention except that John-Kymani Gordon played 90 minutes for Carlisle in their 2-2 draw against fellow promotion hopefuls Stockport. No goal or assist but good to see his back in first team action.

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m/k mick milton keynes 18 Apr 23 11.58pm
Was at game tonight in MK, early doors, Rak Saki, looked neat and tidy, but to be honest overall disappointing, Ray Lewingtons son (Dean) I think 37 had him in his pocket most of the game, he assisted in the only goal but little else, on this showing he is not a replacement for Wilf, but really hope I am wrong
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milton keynes 18 Apr 23 11.58pm

Was at game tonight in MK, early doors, Rak Saki, looked neat and tidy, but to be honest overall disappointing, Ray Lewingtons son (Dean) I think 37 had him in his pocket most of the game, he assisted in the only goal but little else, on this showing he is not a replacement for Wilf, but really hope I am wrong

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Badger11 Beckenham 19 Apr 23 8.06am
Originally posted by m/k mick Was at game tonight in MK, early doors, Rak Saki, looked neat and tidy, but to be honest overall disappointing, Ray Lewingtons son (Dean) I think 37 had him in his pocket most of the game, he assisted in the only goal but little else, on this showing he is not a replacement for Wilf, but really hope I am wrong I see the Charlton fans are arguing on their forums about POTY. The sensible ones say it's JRS by a mile but many saying they can't vote for a Palace or loan player. We had no problem voting Gallagher as POTY I hope the sensible ones win out. One more point
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Beckenham 19 Apr 23 8.06am

Originally posted by m/k mick

I see the Charlton fans are arguing on their forums about POTY. The sensible ones say it's JRS by a mile but many saying they can't vote for a Palace or loan player.

We had no problem voting Gallagher as POTY I hope the sensible ones win out.

One more point

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DANGERCLOSE London 22 Apr 23 5.06pm
Rak saki with another goal
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London 22 Apr 23 5.06pm

Rak saki with another goal

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theorist 25 Apr 23 10.57am
Malachi Boatang, a glowing tactical, non-pundrity, review of QP play - "The midfield general" - [Link] Pure footballing eye candy, our 14s and 16s. Full match videos, making it on topic for the thread....future outbound loanees: Sporting California Arsenal vs Crystal Palace (U14s) [Link] Crystal Palace vs FC Eintracht Bamberg (U16s) [Link] Juventus Academy vs. Crystal Palace (U16s) [Link] and... shortly after the Mail (and Telegraph's) article night before last, this was set to private: Barcelona vs. Crystal Palace (U16s) [Link]
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theorist 25 Apr 23 10.57am

Malachi Boatang, a glowing tactical, non-pundrity, review of QP play - "The midfield general" - [Link]

Pure footballing eye candy, our 14s and 16s. Full match videos, making it on topic for the thread....future outbound loanees:

Sporting California Arsenal vs Crystal Palace (U14s) [Link]
Crystal Palace vs FC Eintracht Bamberg (U16s) [Link]
Juventus Academy vs. Crystal Palace (U16s) [Link]

and...
shortly after the Mail (and Telegraph's) article night before last, this was set to private:
Barcelona vs. Crystal Palace (U16s) [Link]

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CrazyBadger Ware 26 Apr 23 1.31pm
Killian Phillips; STFC's young player of the year. [Tweet Link] Congrats Killian! "It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"
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CrazyBadger

Ware 26 Apr 23 1.31pm

Killian Phillips; STFC's young player of the year.

[Tweet Link]

Congrats Killian!

"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Apr 23 1.38pm
Originally posted by CrazyBadger Killian Phillips; STFC's young player of the year. [Tweet Link] Congrats Killian! Excellent to see! Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Apr 23 1.38pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Killian Phillips; STFC's young player of the year.

[Tweet Link]

Congrats Killian!

Excellent to see!

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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DANGERCLOSE London 26 Apr 23 3.52pm
Great to see
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London 26 Apr 23 3.52pm

Great to see

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Apr 23 5.03pm
A goal and an assist for Rak-Sakyi today and an assist for Banks.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 29 Apr 23 5.03pm

A goal and an assist for Rak-Sakyi today and an assist for Banks.

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theorist 29 Apr 23 6.18pm
Malachi Boateng with the lone goal for Queen's Park 2-1 loss at Morton. A win in next week's QP (2nd on 58 pts.) v. Dundee (1st at 60) match and QP takes the Scottish Championship and is promoted. Playing nearly every minute of every game as QP's DM, with 2g2a total, and with their supporters loving his performance and wishing for his return, but simultaneously understanding that it is time for him to move upwards, this has been, IMO, a brilliant success for his loan spell. At 20yo, his contract is up in May, I'd say - renew it please.
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theorist 29 Apr 23 6.18pm

Malachi Boateng with the lone goal for Queen's Park 2-1 loss at Morton. A win in next week's QP (2nd on 58 pts.) v. Dundee (1st at 60) match and QP takes the Scottish Championship and is promoted.

Playing nearly every minute of every game as QP's DM, with 2g2a total, and with their supporters loving his performance and wishing for his return, but simultaneously understanding that it is time for him to move upwards, this has been, IMO, a brilliant success for his loan spell.

At 20yo, his contract is up in May, I'd say - renew it please.

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