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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Jun 23 2.00pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The report says the influence of private schools in developing cricketers and the lack of cricket in state schools is partly to blame for "elitism and class-based discrimination". I do recognise that, experienced the class system myself, and in my state school we didn't even have a pitch, but racism still, I am a little surprised. Conversely, football players get a lot more and are heavily over-represented by players from state schools. I don't see how it's the fault of all cricket that public schools play cricket and state schools don't.
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beak croydon 27 Jun 23 2.57pm | |
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England XI: Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes, Bairstow, Broad, Robinson, Tongue, Anderson. Team For 2nd Test starting tomorrow.
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ex hibitionist Hastings 27 Jun 23 4.07pm | |
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I've been banging on about class in sport for years - rugby and cricket are 'u', football is 'non-U'. We didn't win the men's singles at Wimbledon for 76 years - while players had to bow to the royal box at centre court - not a coincidence. Sam Burgess is one of many rugby league players to experience snobbery when going to rugby union - it's this public school thing we've got here, edification is only for an elite, breeding and all that, it's why we never win the world cup and have no manufacturing industry - other countries have clever people we've got posh people - massive oversimplification but the snobbery comes with small-mindedness which does not make for success. And we've got a young quicky in instead of Rehan - maybe later in the series, can see him at the Oval.
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 23 8.01pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The report says the influence of private schools in developing cricketers and the lack of cricket in state schools is partly to blame for "elitism and class-based discrimination". I do recognise that, experienced the class system myself, and in my state school we didn't even have a pitch, but racism still, I am a little surprised. This is just another way that for minorities and jealous types to undermine our institutions. Do we really expect a system where some don't rise to the top? Only a communist would, and we all know how communism works out. We have a state education system which promotes the idea from the primary level that winning isn't important and no one loses. Is it any wonder that we don't produce enough good sportsmen from there?
It seems that someone only has to suggest racism has occurred, and we just believe it without question. The desire to appear virtuous and retain sponsorship has completely distorted the reality. Hence, we have this drumhead justice for anyone who even looks at someone in a funny way. This is multicultural, liberal Britain.
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ex hibitionist Hastings 27 Jun 23 8.24pm | |
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Thar was multicoloured liberal amounts of cr*p
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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Jun 23 9.10pm | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
Thar was multicoloured liberal amounts of cr*p Did you borrow that from Nietzsche? Here is another one. The most senile thing ever thought about man is contained in the celebrated saying 'the ego is always hateful'; the most childish is the even more celebrated 'love thy neighbour as thyself'. - In the former, knowledge of human nature has ceased, in the latter it has not yet even begun. Friedrich Nietzsche
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Midlands Eagle 28 Jun 23 6.07am | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
And we've got a young quicky in instead of Rehan - maybe later in the series, can see him at the Oval. I have no idea why Rehan was called up in the first place as he has only taken a handful of wickets this season anyway
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steeleye20 Croydon 28 Jun 23 9.19am | |
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It's the Aussies versus Root. In addition to the batting, he is now the spin attack as well! And his ever-reliable slip catching. Really only see the Ashes going one way. Come on lads, step up.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Jun 23 10.42am | |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
I've been banging on about class in sport for years - rugby and cricket are 'u', football is 'non-U'. We didn't win the men's singles at Wimbledon for 76 years - while players had to bow to the royal box at centre court - not a coincidence. Sam Burgess is one of many rugby league players to experience snobbery when going to rugby union - it's this public school thing we've got here, edification is only for an elite, breeding and all that, it's why we never win the world cup and have no manufacturing industry - other countries have clever people we've got posh people - massive oversimplification but the snobbery comes with small-mindedness which does not make for success. And we've got a young quicky in instead of Rehan - maybe later in the series, can see him at the Oval. It's a bit of an oversimplification as England have won both the Cricket and Rugby World Cups. In Rugby, for instance, egalitarian France have never won it - in fact, England are the only northern hemisphere side to have ever won the rugby.
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cacabolsa 28 Jun 23 11.25am | |
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Cricket has to find a way of developing and incorporating the Afro Carribean and Asian players in the community. I believe one season their were only 2 pro Afro carribean cricketers qualified to play for England in English cricket and that was West Indian born Jofra Archer and Chris Jordan. Its worth noting when you look at the staff stewarding or working in hospitality at our crciket grounds on zero hour contracts its the BAME community that fills almost all these roles. I think there has to be a levelling up of the county teams, I'm not sure how many squads of internationals Surrey have but it looks like they could win the county championship again and the T20 aswell with a totally different team of players. The Hundred seems to strengthen those counties with a Test ground, and leave the likes of Sussex, Northants and Derby with nothing, no players participating and those counties with no matches in August. Edited by cacabolsa (28 Jun 2023 11.33am) Edited by cacabolsa (28 Jun 2023 11.38am) Edited by cacabolsa (28 Jun 2023 11.39am)
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Jun 23 1.09pm | |
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Originally posted by cacabolsa
Cricket has to find a way of developing and incorporating the Afro Carribean and Asian players in the community. I believe one season their were only 2 pro Afro carribean cricketers qualified to play for England in English cricket and that was West Indian born Jofra Archer and Chris Jordan. Its worth noting when you look at the staff stewarding or working in hospitality at our crciket grounds on zero hour contracts its the BAME community that fills almost all these roles. I think there has to be a levelling up of the county teams, I'm not sure how many squads of internationals Surrey have but it looks like they could win the county championship again and the T20 aswell with a totally different team of players. The Hundred seems to strengthen those counties with a Test ground, and leave the likes of Sussex, Northants and Derby with nothing, no players participating and those counties with no matches in August. Edited by cacabolsa (28 Jun 2023 11.33am) Edited by cacabolsa (28 Jun 2023 11.38am) Edited by cacabolsa (28 Jun 2023 11.39am) So why are all those 'Asians' still supporting India and pakistan? They are British aren't they? Why doesn't England just stop playing cricket altogether and just have India(GB) and pakistan(GB)? Then perhaps the authorities can get all the sponsorship they crave, and the majority can completely forget about a game most people only remotely care about during the World Cup and Ashes.
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Midlands Eagle 28 Jun 23 1.51pm | |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Don't forget that many schools have sold off the ground that they used to play cricket on
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