Afghanistan: Mothers throw babies over airport barbed wire to British soldiers as they are beaten by Taliban.

It has really come to this.....

Sure I get for those MPs who served in Afghanistan it was a betrayal but leaving aside the emotion the UK staying on our own was never a viable option. We don't have the troops or the money.

IDS saying we should take the lead fine problem is that it will be a coalition of one, the rest of Europe are keeping their heads down.

Thing is, after Boris [signing the deal on Ireland in January, then a few months later saying he is going to break it, against international law, why on earth would anybody trust us ever again, especially the Europeans!/quote]

Being reported across many media sites that Dominic Raab claimed he was "too busy" to speak to the Afghan Foreign Minister as the Taliban were closing in on Kabul. This despite the fact he was on holiday.

Beggars belief the PM expelled Rory Stewart from the Conservative Party yet keeps this individual in his cabinet.

HOC yesterday was a virtue signallers convention.

Labour complaining that the UK should have done more to build an anti Taliban alliance amongst the west ignoring the fact that the government did try to do that and got a firm no from the EU et al (not that I blame them).

Lisa Nandy complaining about UK withdrawing troops when a few months ago she went on record saying it was time for the UK to leave.

Starmer was using his full "Captain Hindsight" superpowers to tell HOC how he'd seen this coming of course he and the rest of the opposition hadn't bothered to mention Afghanistan until the last few weeks.

As for the Tories according to the media Mrs May never made a single speech about Afghanistan whilst PM until yesterday when she was full of concern.

I am not excusing the government the evacuation has been a shambles and Raab should not have been on holiday, however the US withdrawing was a unilateral decision and NATO and the EU were not interested in stepping up so what exactly was the UK supposed to do.

Half the Labour Party spend their time going on Stop The War marches now all of a sudden they want troops in.

The level of hypocrisy from all sides of the house and lack of viable alternate plans yesterday was shameful.

You might as well as said "something most be done" that's the level of intelligent debate we get these days. "Sir, sir Boris minor is not paying attention".

Edited by Badger11 (19 Aug 2021 8.04am)

Honestly I think that the Taliban were afraid of a bit of instant retribution - this is why there press releases were much more "we have changed, women can do this & that" & "those that want to leave can go peacefully without fear of being attacked" - it would be lovely if they meant it ( & I would love to be proved wrong) but I feel its just a front until they have judged what reaction (if any) occurs from the west & until the media spotlight moves onto something else