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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 10 Oct 23 3.48pm
Originally posted by Joseph Paxton If the Royal Meteorology Society can't tell me what those clouds are, then they are clearly exceptional. I call them UAP but they were hanging around in a totally clear sky off the coast of Hove (no seaweed jokes) in the evening sky during lockdown. I also captured some very fast moving UAP phenomena off Cornwall last year. With new 60 fps cameras you can capture these very fast moving objects, often by mistake. Please do share the content... Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.
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SW19 CPFC

Addiscombe West 10 Oct 23 3.48pm

Originally posted by Joseph Paxton

If the Royal Meteorology Society can't tell me what those clouds are, then they are clearly exceptional. I call them UAP but they were hanging around in a totally clear sky off the coast of Hove (no seaweed jokes) in the evening sky during lockdown.

I also captured some very fast moving UAP phenomena off Cornwall last year. With new 60 fps cameras you can capture these very fast moving objects, often by mistake.

Please do share the content...

Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Oct 23 6.50pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Don't think there's anything in that post that suggests I'm not open minded.. I just choose to follow probability and let that determine what I waste valuable time on rather than treat all possibilities with equal weighting. Once again I defer to Musk on this one. His explanation as to the likelihood of us being constantly visited by otherworldly beings on the regular is both more informed and eloquently put than anything I've read on this thread so far. It's always the same type of people claiming to have unequivocal evidence of aliens existing... trouble is, much like ghosts, the more advanced and plentiful cameras become, the more these people are being rightly picked off as ignoramuses or hacks. That series of cloud photos being a prime example. It's a cloud. Hell, it could be manipulated for all we know – where's the critique. A high resolution version would be nice. Also the point that water vapour could never form such a shape – absolute balderdash. Of course it could... it would just be extremely rare to witness and even more rare to be able to capture on camera. People see shapes, even faces in clouds all the time... some extremely convincing. Doesn't mean it's really a human head though, does it! Whether there is no evidence for 'aliens' is debatable. The kind of evidence that does exist would stand up in court if the subject were more, ahem, down to earth. There is not a shred of evidence that they aren't real. How could one know? We just don't have enough information to make any sort of judgement. This isn't some religious type of faith. The possibility of alien visitation is real, not some sort of spaghetti monster logic. I completely disagree with the idea that the people who report these things are all the same types. If you think that, then you need to do more research. Like I said, seeing is believing, at least, as far as believing in anything like that goes. It makes not a jot of difference to my life whether aliens come here or not. I know some must be out there somewhere. Common sense dictates that much.
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Don't think there's anything in that post that suggests I'm not open minded.. I just choose to follow probability and let that determine what I waste valuable time on rather than treat all possibilities with equal weighting.

Once again I defer to Musk on this one. His explanation as to the likelihood of us being constantly visited by otherworldly beings on the regular is both more informed and eloquently put than anything I've read on this thread so far.

It's always the same type of people claiming to have unequivocal evidence of aliens existing... trouble is, much like ghosts, the more advanced and plentiful cameras become, the more these people are being rightly picked off as ignoramuses or hacks.

That series of cloud photos being a prime example. It's a cloud. Hell, it could be manipulated for all we know – where's the critique. A high resolution version would be nice.

Also the point that water vapour could never form such a shape – absolute balderdash. Of course it could... it would just be extremely rare to witness and even more rare to be able to capture on camera.

People see shapes, even faces in clouds all the time... some extremely convincing. Doesn't mean it's really a human head though, does it!

Whether there is no evidence for 'aliens' is debatable. The kind of evidence that does exist would stand up in court if the subject were more, ahem, down to earth.

There is not a shred of evidence that they aren't real. How could one know? We just don't have enough information to make any sort of judgement. This isn't some religious type of faith. The possibility of alien visitation is real, not some sort of spaghetti monster logic.
I completely disagree with the idea that the people who report these things are all the same types. If you think that, then you need to do more research.

Like I said, seeing is believing, at least, as far as believing in anything like that goes. It makes not a jot of difference to my life whether aliens come here or not. I know some must be out there somewhere. Common sense dictates that much.

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AmazingDal Addiscombe 10 Oct 23 6.59pm
Here are a couple of vids I took in my back garden in Addiscombe in 2021. They are both anomalies which I could'nt identify and which I managed to capture on film. They are not balloons or drones. I don't know what they were but as far as I'm concerned they're Unidentified Flying Objects: [Link] [Link] Edited by AmazingDal (10 Oct 2023 7.17pm)
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Here are a couple of vids I took in my back garden in Addiscombe in 2021.

They are both anomalies which I could'nt identify and which I managed to capture on film. They are not balloons or drones. I don't know what they were but as far as I'm concerned they're Unidentified Flying Objects:

[Link]

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Oct 23 7.13pm
Originally posted by AmazingDal Here are a couple of vids I took in my back garden in Addiscombe in 2021. They are both anomalies which I could'nt identify and which I managed to capture on film. They are not ballons or drones. I don't know what they were but as far as I'm concerned they're Unidentified Flying Objects: [Link] [Link] The first one has all the hallmarks of a balloon. The second one I can't barely see. If it can't stop on a sixpence, do right angled turns and whizz off at incredible speed or hover just over your head with flashing lights and disappear in an instant then I usually go with not a flying saucer/ tictac/ mothership.
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10 Oct 23 7.13pm

Originally posted by AmazingDal

Here are a couple of vids I took in my back garden in Addiscombe in 2021.

They are both anomalies which I could'nt identify and which I managed to capture on film. They are not ballons or drones. I don't know what they were but as far as I'm concerned they're Unidentified Flying Objects:

[Link]

The first one has all the hallmarks of a balloon. The second one I can't barely see.

If it can't stop on a sixpence, do right angled turns and whizz off at incredible speed or hover just over your head with flashing lights and disappear in an instant then I usually go with not a flying saucer/ tictac/ mothership.

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AmazingDal Addiscombe 10 Oct 23 7.30pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The first one has all the hallmarks of a balloon. The second one I can't barely see. If it can't stop on a sixpence, do right angled turns and whizz off at incredible speed or hover just over your head with flashing lights and disappear in an instant then I usually go with not a flying saucer/ tictac/ mothership. That's just being immediately dismissive and pedantic. The first one was not a balloon, admittidly it is hard to tell on the video but I estimate it was the size of a small car. The second one is there, go full screen and let the video play, you can see it's erratic movement in comparison to the clouds.
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Addiscombe 10 Oct 23 7.30pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The first one has all the hallmarks of a balloon. The second one I can't barely see.

That's just being immediately dismissive and pedantic.

The first one was not a balloon, admittidly it is hard to tell on the video but I estimate it was the size of a small car.

The second one is there, go full screen and let the video play, you can see it's erratic movement in comparison to the clouds.

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Joseph Paxton Lancing 10 Oct 23 7.57pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Don't think there's anything in that post that suggests I'm not open minded.. I just choose to follow probability and let that determine what I waste valuable time on rather than treat all possibilities with equal weighting. Once again I defer to Musk on this one. His explanation as to the likelihood of us being constantly visited by otherworldly beings on the regular is both more informed and eloquently put than anything I've read on this thread so far. It's always the same type of people claiming to have unequivocal evidence of aliens existing... trouble is, much like ghosts, the more advanced and plentiful cameras become, the more these people are being rightly picked off as ignoramuses or hacks. That series of cloud photos being a prime example. It's a cloud. Hell, it could be manipulated for all we know – where's the critique. A high resolution version would be nice. Also the point that water vapour could never form such a shape – absolute balderdash. Of course it could... it would just be extremely rare to witness and even more rare to be able to capture on camera. People see shapes, even faces in clouds all the time... some extremely convincing. Doesn't mean it's really a human head though, does it! Please, be my guest and find catlogued and characterised natural solid equilateral triangle clouds in this international taxonomy here: [Link] I won't waste time waiting for you to do so. And if it were suggested that the clouds I photoed may be contrails, it should be clear the triangles were at about 1000-3000 feet up and contrails do not have cold enough air to form until 20,0000 feet or higher. People see human heads in established and well-categorised forms of cloud such as cumulus, not as random apparitions that have no like. Edited by Joseph Paxton (10 Oct 2023 7.57pm) Be where you are; otherwise you will miss your life.
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Lancing 10 Oct 23 7.57pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

That series of cloud photos being a prime example. It's a cloud. Hell, it could be manipulated for all we know – where's the critique. A high resolution version would be nice.

People see shapes, even faces in clouds all the time... some extremely convincing. Doesn't mean it's really a human head though, does it!

Please, be my guest and find catlogued and characterised natural solid equilateral triangle clouds in this international taxonomy here: [Link]

I won't waste time waiting for you to do so. And if it were suggested that the clouds I photoed may be contrails, it should be clear the triangles were at about 1000-3000 feet up and contrails do not have cold enough air to form until 20,0000 feet or higher. People see human heads in established and well-categorised forms of cloud such as cumulus, not as random apparitions that have no like.

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Oct 23 10.34pm
Originally posted by AmazingDal That's just being immediately dismissive and pedantic. The first one was not a balloon, admittidly it is hard to tell on the video but I estimate it was the size of a small car. The second one is there, go full screen and let the video play, you can see it's erratic movement in comparison to the clouds. No need to be tetchy. I'm just saying what I see straight off. How could you tell how big the first one was? Estimating size is quite difficult at a distance. I only gave you my criteria for bona fide 'flying saucers' because that is exactly what I have seen with my own eyes. No doubt about it. My check list would be. Is it a plane? Is it a helicopter? Is it a drone? Is it a balloon or blimp? Is it a weather phenomenon? Is it a satellite or rocket? Is it a flock of birds or insects? Is it a planet, star or meteor? If you can definitely dismiss all of those then you might be on to something interesting.
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10 Oct 23 10.34pm

Originally posted by AmazingDal

That's just being immediately dismissive and pedantic.

The first one was not a balloon, admittidly it is hard to tell on the video but I estimate it was the size of a small car.

The second one is there, go full screen and let the video play, you can see it's erratic movement in comparison to the clouds.

No need to be tetchy.
I'm just saying what I see straight off.

How could you tell how big the first one was? Estimating size is quite difficult at a distance.

I only gave you my criteria for bona fide 'flying saucers' because that is exactly what I have seen with my own eyes. No doubt about it.
My check list would be. Is it a plane? Is it a helicopter? Is it a drone? Is it a balloon or blimp? Is it a weather phenomenon? Is it a satellite or rocket? Is it a flock of birds or insects? Is it a planet, star or meteor?

If you can definitely dismiss all of those then you might be on to something interesting.

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AmazingDal Addiscombe 10 Oct 23 11.25pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger No need to be tetchy. I'm just saying what I see straight off. How could you tell how big the first one was? Estimating size is quite difficult at a distance. I only gave you my criteria for bona fide 'flying saucers' because that is exactly what I have seen with my own eyes. No doubt about it. My check list would be. Is it a plane? Is it a helicopter? Is it a drone? Is it a balloon or blimp? Is it a weather phenomenon? Is it a satellite or rocket? Is it a flock of birds or insects? Is it a planet, star or meteor? If you can definitely dismiss all of those then you might be on to something interesting. Apologies, if it came across like that. I'm quite passionate about the subject and It pains me when I get a dissmissive response from people. I saw my first UFO pretty close up in the 70's and I've been studying the subject and watching the skies ever since. I've seen some very strange anomalous objects that I can't explain. Don't take this the wrong way, but i'm well versed in what is conventional aircraft and what isnt. My beliefs have changed over the years but one thing I'm 99% certain of is that we are being visited by non-human intelligences. Whether it be aliens, time travellers, multi-dimensional beings, advanced AI, I don't know. But if you take the time to look for it, there is a huge amount of evidence available. It might make you question your beliefs too.
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Addiscombe 10 Oct 23 11.25pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No need to be tetchy.
I'm just saying what I see straight off.

How could you tell how big the first one was? Estimating size is quite difficult at a distance.

If you can definitely dismiss all of those then you might be on to something interesting.

Apologies, if it came across like that. I'm quite passionate about the subject and It pains me when I get a dissmissive response from people.

I saw my first UFO pretty close up in the 70's and I've been studying the subject and watching the skies ever since. I've seen some very strange anomalous objects that I can't explain. Don't take this the wrong way, but i'm well versed in what is conventional aircraft and what isnt.

My beliefs have changed over the years but one thing I'm 99% certain of is that we are being visited by non-human intelligences. Whether it be aliens, time travellers, multi-dimensional beings, advanced AI, I don't know. But if you take the time to look for it, there is a huge amount of evidence available.

It might make you question your beliefs too.

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Hrolf The Ganger 10 Oct 23 11.46pm
Originally posted by AmazingDal Apologies, if it came across like that. I'm quite passionate about the subject and It pains me when I get a dissmissive response from people. I saw my first UFO pretty close up in the 70's and I've been studying the subject and watching the skies ever since. I've seen some very strange anomalous objects that I can't explain. Don't take this the wrong way, but i'm well versed in what is conventional aircraft and what isnt. My beliefs have changed over the years but one thing I'm 99% certain of is that we are being visited by non-human intelligences. Whether it be aliens, time travellers, multi-dimensional beings, advanced AI, I don't know. But if you take the time to look for it, there is a huge amount of evidence available. It might make you question your beliefs too. I don’t need convincing. What I’ve seen cannot just be explained away.
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10 Oct 23 11.46pm

Originally posted by AmazingDal

Apologies, if it came across like that. I'm quite passionate about the subject and It pains me when I get a dissmissive response from people.

It might make you question your beliefs too.

I don’t need convincing.
What I’ve seen cannot just be explained away.

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Peter Taylor 01 Dec 23 7.24pm
Originally posted by AmazingDal Apologies, if it came across like that. I'm quite passionate about the subject and It pains me when I get a dissmissive response from people. I saw my first UFO pretty close up in the 70's and I've been studying the subject and watching the skies ever since. I've seen some very strange anomalous objects that I can't explain. Don't take this the wrong way, but i'm well versed in what is conventional aircraft and what isnt. My beliefs have changed over the years but one thing I'm 99% certain of is that we are being visited by non-human intelligences. Whether it be aliens, time travellers, multi-dimensional beings, advanced AI, I don't know. But if you take the time to look for it, there is a huge amount of evidence available. It might make you question your beliefs too. I am also very passionate about the subject and have been since my early teens. I'm 63 now. There are a few go to guys that I try not to miss their interviews. Lui Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, Richard Dolan, Dr. Gary Nolan and lawyer Daniel Sheehan. Sheehan gave an incredible interview last night. It's almost 2 hours but well worth the listen. [Link]
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01 Dec 23 7.24pm

Originally posted by AmazingDal

Apologies, if it came across like that. I'm quite passionate about the subject and It pains me when I get a dissmissive response from people.

It might make you question your beliefs too.

I am also very passionate about the subject and have been since my early teens. I'm 63 now. There are a few go to guys that I try not to miss their interviews. Lui Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, Richard Dolan, Dr. Gary Nolan and lawyer Daniel Sheehan.

Sheehan gave an incredible interview last night. It's almost 2 hours but well worth the listen.
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Noz North Hampshire 27 Feb 24 3.50pm
Anyone with an interest on this topic, about UAP, or Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, should spend some time watch the videos created as a result of the 2023 Sol Foundation meeting. This was a forum to bring together many luminaries and academic experts in this field, including Jacques Vallee', Hal Puthoff and Chris Mellon as some examples. The Sol Foundation was created by Garry Nolan and Peter Skafish who are both very highly regarded experts on the subject. [Link] My personal view is that we are being visited by something which we cannot explain. Hopefully within the next couple of years we will understand more about this issue, which, in my opinion is one of the most profound changes to human history since the dawn of time. Edited by Noz (27 Feb 2024 3.58pm) Edited by Noz (27 Feb 2024 4.11pm)
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Anyone with an interest on this topic, about UAP, or Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, should spend some time watch the videos created as a result of the 2023 Sol Foundation meeting. This was a forum to bring together many luminaries and academic experts in this field, including Jacques Vallee', Hal Puthoff and Chris Mellon as some examples. The Sol Foundation was created by Garry Nolan and Peter Skafish who are both very highly regarded experts on the subject.

[Link]

My personal view is that we are being visited by something which we cannot explain. Hopefully within the next couple of years we will understand more about this issue, which, in my opinion is one of the most profound changes to human history since the dawn of time.

Edited by Noz (27 Feb 2024 3.58pm)

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 27 Feb 24 4.01pm
Originally posted by Noz Anyone with an interest on this topic, about UAP, or Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, should spend some time watch the videos created as a result of the 2023 Sol Foundation meeting. This was a forum to bring together many luminaries and academic experts in this field, including Jacques Vallee'', Hal Puthoff anc Chris Mellon as some examples. The Sol Foundation was created by Garry Nolan and Peter Skafish who are both very highly regarded experts on the subject. [Link] My personal view is that we are being visited by something which we cannot explain. Hopefully within the next couple of years we will understand more about this issue, which, in my opinion is one of the most poignant changes to human history since the dawn of time. A topic I am really interested in and which I have three options as to the reasons: It is advanced military testing by whoever has managed to crack the science needed. It is alien civilisations who are so advanced that it appears like magic to us. It is our descendants who have worked out time travel. But why are they coming back? If it is the latter then the constant visitations to nuclear sites may be a clue (what are we about to do that warrants such attention?) hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by Noz

Anyone with an interest on this topic, about UAP, or Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, should spend some time watch the videos created as a result of the 2023 Sol Foundation meeting. This was a forum to bring together many luminaries and academic experts in this field, including Jacques Vallee'', Hal Puthoff anc Chris Mellon as some examples. The Sol Foundation was created by Garry Nolan and Peter Skafish who are both very highly regarded experts on the subject.

[Link]

My personal view is that we are being visited by something which we cannot explain. Hopefully within the next couple of years we will understand more about this issue, which, in my opinion is one of the most poignant changes to human history since the dawn of time.

A topic I am really interested in and which I have three options as to the reasons:

It is advanced military testing by whoever has managed to crack the science needed.

It is alien civilisations who are so advanced that it appears like magic to us.

It is our descendants who have worked out time travel. But why are they coming back? If it is the latter then the constant visitations to nuclear sites may be a clue (what are we about to do that warrants such attention?)

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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