I think it was half the reason they separated the general talk forum but it does seem to have been hijacked by a handful of bigots, perhaps the mods turn a blind eye as long as its kept within these confines. Some decent contributors also feel they can behave like complete dickheads on this section for some reason, very odd

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Oh the irony! Why on earth are you using a Crystal Palace fan forum to endlessly post your hardline political views? Surely there are better places for that?

I used to come here for Palace talk and would happily chat with people whom I disagreed with on other topics. But all I ever see is the same old tired cliches, broken arguments and abuse about the EU, Muslims, Tommy Robinson, race, etc etc. It’s so predictable I can even guess the topics certain posters will start threads on before visiting the site, based on what’s in the news.

Well said and in your follow up.

The problem is that the "usual suspects" are in total denial of themselves and think that the views they hold are somehow acceptable and therefore ought to be tolerated as part of the debate. They scream "free speech" when anyone objects and then use rather silly insults that would be more at home in a primary school playground than in a forum like this. They even deny that they are far right and think they are part of the mainstream.

This is the type of attitude I would have expected to see on a Millwall or even a West Ham forum. I realise every club must have a few like this but are ours all really here?

My association with Palace goes back well over 60 years and I cannot recall a time before when it was anything like as bad as it is now. I really don't think it's doing the club any favours at all for this kind of stuff to be appearing here. There are specialist sites where such people can confirm each other's biases to their hearts content.

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That's exactly what I've done, closed the thread. And eventually visited the site less and less. I love politics and will happily debate with people from all areas of the spectrum, but life is too short to do it all the time, or indeed when you just want to find out what people think the team line up will be for the game at the weekend. I'm afraid I don't have the time or energy to reply to people who are too far down the rabbit hole to see clearly each time I log onto Hol.

And I'm pretty thick skinned, don't think that just because I've complained about some posters that I cry myself to sleep each night over it. What some oddball who can't stop posting on about immigrants on a football forum thinks really doesn't bother me, but it is a shame that a website that represents our club is being taken over by a vocal minority who are giving a false impression of what our club is all about.

I think the first thing to do would be count the number of posters starting these alleged topics to see if there really is an issue...most of the bile on here only comes from 3 or 4 posters when there are how many on here?

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Then why not continue using HOL for your football fix and not bothering with the rest as that's what most of the forum members do as this politics area is only populated by a tiny fraction of the overall membership.

The majority of the criticism of the supposed right wing bias from "another forum" is generated by someone banned from here plus his coterie and to describe this place as a "cesspot of right wing views" shows just what a load of rubbish he spouted because as far as I can see the so called cesspit probably consists of just two people