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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 22 Aug 17 11.52pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Palace v Ipswich ' by Guntrisoft

Still more questions than answers although an experimental / understrength team with PVA at right wing-back. Thought it was dire for first 70 minutes or so until Townsend's introduction.

First half too much ponderous / pointless, slow passing in our own half whilst Ipswich mainly stood off.

Only really got going once we made subs and started to commit forward and MacArthur had opened the game up with a bit of quality.

Lokilo looks too lightweight and doesn't appear to have pace to compensate. Reserve judgment on Kai Kai as he must have been frustrated with the square passing and lack of support at times.

Struggling to see us scoring goals or keeping clean sheets so a 4-0 win Saturday.


 

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Panther Flag 23 Aug 17 2.34am Send a Private Message to Panther Add Panther as a friend

In the end the scoreline was closer than I had first anticipated. With the team put out thought Palace would win by a good margin but credit to ourselves the kids were undaunted and gave it a go. No shame in defeat, we kept you out for long periods and only lost the battle in the closing stages. Thought Palace were quite sluggish at times and didn't look bothered, on another night - and with a stronger starting XI - we may just have gone through but can't change what was witnessed tonight.

Still got the league to play for and if we win this weekend that's five wins out of five, obviously disappointed to be out of the competition but in that small minority that actually care about progression and wanting to do well.

Fair enough the kids put out tonight did well and brought no shame on themselves, but the unambiguous apathy some within our club set-up (that) regard cup competition is blatantly evident.

Hope to play your again sometime, next time will hope for better outcome.

 

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majorkaios Flag Trowbridge, Wilts 23 Aug 17 4.08am Send a Private Message to majorkaios Add majorkaios as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

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Never understood those who bang on about him being stuck on 3-4-3. He's said enough times his preferred system is 4-3-3 but that didn't seem to suit our squad. It's likely transfer targets will be players that suit more than one system if the three he's got so far are anything to go by.

Tonight looked like he was trying to see if he could get both working with the players he had (including the fringe ones).

Absolutely spot on thank you, I was going to say just the same, that FDB had talked about the 4-3-3 option when questioned soon after his appointment.

COYP

 


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europalace Flag Europe 23 Aug 17 7.15am Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Good win and that's all that counts in any cup competition. First goals of the season also, so that account is now open. Clearly the players didn't want to risk any injuries that would risk their places in the next PL games and reflected by some of the regulars not playing at all. Good result, now focus on Swansea.

 

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collier row eagle Flag romford essex via another galaxy 23 Aug 17 7.40am Send a Private Message to collier row eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add collier row eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Panther

In the end the scoreline was closer than I had first anticipated. With the team put out thought Palace would win by a good margin but credit to ourselves the kids were undaunted and gave it a go. No shame in defeat, we kept you out for long periods and only lost the battle in the closing stages. Thought Palace were quite sluggish at times and didn't look bothered, on another night - and with a stronger starting XI - we may just have gone through but can't change what was witnessed tonight.

Still got the league to play for and if we win this weekend that's five wins out of five, obviously disappointed to be out of the competition but in that small minority that actually care about progression and wanting to do well.

Fair enough the kids put out tonight did well and brought no shame on themselves, but the unambiguous apathy some within our club set-up (that) regard cup competition is blatantly evident.

Hope to play your again sometime, next time will hope for better outcome.

Nice post, I was hoping the game had been in Ipswich as it's an easier journey to Ipswich than palace for me, nice club and fans, best wishes for the season

 

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Part Time James Flag 23 Aug 17 7.44am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Enjoyed last night. The atmosphere and performance was better than the Huddersfield game (not difficult performance wise and the atmosphere lacked the tension that we had in the opener).

Thought the youngsters grew into the game. Lokilo started badly. My criticism was him backing away from passes and looking scared to be challenged. Once he did get clattered he was a new man and just came alive. All credit to him, I was dying for him to score to ram my criticism down my throat. Almost did twice! For me that was one of the factors in turning the game.

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Part Time James Flag 23 Aug 17 7.47am Send a Private Message to Part Time James Add Part Time James as a friend

Oh, and when PVA realised he could go up the wing and cut in if he was wrong footed then he made a big difference. Was disappointing and even lazy when he stood about dwelling on his left footedness.

 




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Den1923 Flag 23 Aug 17 8.08am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

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Harsh. Thy looked as good as their recent results imply and were clearly down to have a real go.

We weren't great but we looked much more settled in possession - even when being pressed/closed down an dthe passing looked better too. If & when we speed it up we look fairly decent. At times, especially when Townsend was on the pitch, the transition from defence to attack was very good & the score would probably have been more if we had a powerful striker on the pitch.

Switched off a bit right at the end which led to three defenders not taking responsibility & clearing an easy ball over the top.

Odd points of note:

Kelly looked half decent
Ward seems better at LCB than RWB
Jules can make a CF look plain stupid
Dann looks more like the old version (pre-captaincy)
FdB is able to change it up
The weird 'experiment' playing right footed players on the left & vice versa actually worked out ok. Maybe not ideal but it showed players can fill in or rotate positions without too much grief.

There's a lot of work to do but signs of improvement are clear.

sorry do not mean to be harsh or unreasonable but cannot get it out of my head we are supposed to have PL footballers who were playing a championship youth team and although we did win it was by a small margin and were were made to look very ordinary for long periods and still the defence showed its incompetence in dealing with balls coming at or behind them, so I'm still very concerned that unless we strengthen at the back we are going to struggle in this league!

 

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Painter Flag Croydon 23 Aug 17 8.25am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

sorry do not mean to be harsh or unreasonable but cannot get it out of my head we are supposed to have PL footballers who were playing a championship youth team and although we did win it was by a small margin and were were made to look very ordinary for long periods and still the defence showed its incompetence in dealing with balls coming at or behind them, so I'm still very concerned that unless we strengthen at the back we are going to struggle in this league!



That was the oldest looking youth team, I have ever seen. There 3 central defenders were big old lumps and played well until they tired. They were well drilled and frustrated the game, but we had nothing up front to worry them, no surprise goals came from midfield.

 

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Nobbybm Flag Dartford 23 Aug 17 8.29am Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

sorry do not mean to be harsh or unreasonable but cannot get it out of my head we are supposed to have PL footballers who were playing a championship youth team and although we did win it was by a small margin and were were made to look very ordinary for long periods and still the defence showed its incompetence in dealing with balls coming at or behind them, so I'm still very concerned that unless we strengthen at the back we are going to struggle in this league!

Putting it into context, it was a 'squad' team from a club smashing it in the championship who have won every game so far this season. Very well organised & players fighting for a first team place, clearly desperate to win.

A far cry from the Bolton side we struggled to beat last season.

We did control the game and, with more firepower up front, it could've been quite different. If I'm honest, at times it looked like a training match with us practicing possession of the ball, passing & moving. Work in progress but I'm far more confident about us than I was 10 days ago.

 


Will this be five? It's gonna be five! It IS five!

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Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 23 Aug 17 8.52am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

A win is a win ... how we get there doesn't matter. By all means use Cup games to experiment (that's what preseason was for too!) but FDB should have the team set up properly to win league games. If he hasn't got the 'right players' yet for his system he needs to adapt. In my view, we should have six points on the PL scoreboard by now with three more due this weekend.

 


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Loz83 Flag Crawley 23 Aug 17 10.10am Send a Private Message to Loz83 Add Loz83 as a friend

We looked good once playing 4-3-3 hope we stay that way!

 

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