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bilbo Flag 15 Nov 15 1.12pm Send a Private Message to bilbo Add bilbo as a friend

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Nov 2015 12.20pm

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Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Nov 2015 10.35am

RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968.

He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris.

Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit.

Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!

Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed?

Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS!

Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters?

These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith.

We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds.

Do we want blood on our streets?

Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" !

I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything.

I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!

Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law.

It's our choice.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am)


Yeah, don't you just hate people who post essay-length droning nonsense?


Definitely my longest post ever and the exception rather than the norm but at least it had distinct sub sectors and key points/headers to keep my readers interested!

Still waiting for your response to my burning question about terrorists masquerading as asylum seekers/refugees by the way.....


..I found both of yours interesting, trouble occurs though when one believes theirs to be right and puts the others down, quite like religion really.
All information is largely gathered to the benefit of those reading it, meaning anything can be turned or changed to anyone's likings.
isil want to eventually live in peace surrounded by their own kind, whether the battle that would commence regarding the survival of their naughty bits amongst them all survives is another thing, if the World ends up all being muslim but without the naughty bits.....what would be the problem.

If others are religious that's for them but called as it is, religion is an affront to reality. To varying degrees a relic, so I don't want a world that's muslim, or christian for that matter.

 

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Quote bilbo at 15 Nov 2015 1.12pm

Quote cornwalls palace at 15 Nov 2015 12.34pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Nov 2015 12.20pm

Quote serial thriller at 15 Nov 2015 11.49am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Nov 2015 10.35am

RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968.

He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris.

Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit.

Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!

Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed?

Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS!

Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters?

These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith.

We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds.

Do we want blood on our streets?

Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" !

I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything.

I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!

Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law.

It's our choice.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am)


Yeah, don't you just hate people who post essay-length droning nonsense?


Definitely my longest post ever and the exception rather than the norm but at least it had distinct sub sectors and key points/headers to keep my readers interested!

Still waiting for your response to my burning question about terrorists masquerading as asylum seekers/refugees by the way.....


..I found both of yours interesting, trouble occurs though when one believes theirs to be right and puts the others down, quite like religion really.
All information is largely gathered to the benefit of those reading it, meaning anything can be turned or changed to anyone's likings.
isil want to eventually live in peace surrounded by their own kind, whether the battle that would commence regarding the survival of their naughty bits amongst them all survives is another thing, if the World ends up all being muslim but without the naughty bits.....what would be the problem.

If others are religious that's for them but called as it is, religion is an affront to reality. To varying degrees a relic, so I don't want a world that's muslim, or christian for that matter.


Crikey. We agree 100% on something.

 

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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 15 Nov 15 1.21pm

Quote nickgusset at 15 Nov 2015 1.12pm

Have read this morning that the Egyptian passport found belonged to a fan at the France Germany game and that the Syrian one found is a forgery.


..sadly, it's going to take about the same amount of time to piece all the bodies together to get all the correct information before anything tangible can be sorted by the security forces, they obviously ferked up keeping eyes on certain individuals.

 


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Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 15 Nov 2015 1.15pm

Quote bilbo at 15 Nov 2015 1.12pm

Quote cornwalls palace at 15 Nov 2015 12.34pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Nov 2015 12.20pm

Quote serial thriller at 15 Nov 2015 11.49am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Nov 2015 10.35am

RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968.

He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris.

Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit.

Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!

Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed?

Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS!

Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters?

These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith.

We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds.

Do we want blood on our streets?

Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" !

I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything.

I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!

Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law.

It's our choice.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am)


Yeah, don't you just hate people who post essay-length droning nonsense?


Definitely my longest post ever and the exception rather than the norm but at least it had distinct sub sectors and key points/headers to keep my readers interested!

Still waiting for your response to my burning question about terrorists masquerading as asylum seekers/refugees by the way.....


..I found both of yours interesting, trouble occurs though when one believes theirs to be right and puts the others down, quite like religion really.
All information is largely gathered to the benefit of those reading it, meaning anything can be turned or changed to anyone's likings.
isil want to eventually live in peace surrounded by their own kind, whether the battle that would commence regarding the survival of their naughty bits amongst them all survives is another thing, if the World ends up all being muslim but without the naughty bits.....what would be the problem.

If others are religious that's for them but called as it is, religion is an affront to reality. To varying degrees a relic, so I don't want a world that's muslim, or christian for that matter.


Crikey. We agree 100% on something.

What's the world coming to! . That's partly the reason I'm not gungho about immigration. Everyone already living here has to be treated fairly, but these are dangerous times, so I'm glad we didn't follow the lead of Germany with regard to refugees. At the same time I don't blame people for trying to get out of the Syrian hellhole if they can. A bit of self interest all around.

 

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Quote bilbo at 15 Nov 2015 1.09pm

Before you overly bemoan not being able to lock up your workmates it's a good idea to take in Hitchen's view on why we are where we are

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I was referring to his brother.

 


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cornwalls palace Flag Torpoint 15 Nov 15 1.51pm

Quote bilbo at 15 Nov 2015 1.12pm

Quote cornwalls palace at 15 Nov 2015 12.34pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 15 Nov 2015 12.20pm

Quote serial thriller at 15 Nov 2015 11.49am

Quote Hoof Hearted at 14 Nov 2015 10.35am

RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968.

He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris.

Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit.

Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology!

Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed?

Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS!

Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters?

These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith.

We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds.

Do we want blood on our streets?

Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" !

I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything.

I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest!

Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law.

It's our choice.

Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am)


Yeah, don't you just hate people who post essay-length droning nonsense?


Definitely my longest post ever and the exception rather than the norm but at least it had distinct sub sectors and key points/headers to keep my readers interested!

Still waiting for your response to my burning question about terrorists masquerading as asylum seekers/refugees by the way.....


..I found both of yours interesting, trouble occurs though when one believes theirs to be right and puts the others down, quite like religion really.
All information is largely gathered to the benefit of those reading it, meaning anything can be turned or changed to anyone's likings.
isil want to eventually live in peace surrounded by their own kind, whether the battle that would commence regarding the survival of their naughty bits amongst them all survives is another thing, if the World ends up all being muslim but without the naughty bits.....what would be the problem.

If others are religious that's for them but called as it is, religion is an affront to reality. To varying degrees a relic, so I don't want a world that's muslim, or christian for that matter.


..in an isil world you wouldn't have these worries, because you wouldn't be breathing and you also highlight the problem with religions around the world by saying 'I don't want'. I agree with you by the way, but the only way to achieve peace is by removing religion utterly, OK for a while, until someone comes up with an idea about making the rain come because it hasn't rained for about 5 weeks.....so it starts again

 


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This is worth a read, worth a minute of your time in my opinion, it also is close to my view on things but hopefully coming from someone with more knowledge than me.

"A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.

My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).

The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.

In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.

In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.

As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

This came from our friends at Northstandchat.

 

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Quote robforbe at 15 Nov 2015 1.52pm

This is worth a read, worth a minute of your time in my opinion, it also is close to my view on things but hopefully coming from someone with more knowledge than me.

"A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.

My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).

The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.

In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.

In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.

As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

This came from our friends at Northstandchat.


 

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Quote cornwalls palace at 15 Nov 2015 1.09pm

..but, not if everyone on earth thinks like a Nazi you knew the answer to that.

If everyone thinks the moon is made of cheese is that a good thing?

If everyone thinks that books that don't agree with official state dogma should be burned is that a good thing?

If everyone thinks that Jews should be exterminated is that a good thing? Indeed the Nazis wished to turn the Poles into slaves so I'm not even sure that they envisioned a world with only them in it.

Any society that replaces reason with dogma.....whether that dogma is religious or state leader inspired is a society that has turned its back on reason and the lessons of enlightenment.

Keep Britain secular.

 


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Quote robforbe at 15 Nov 2015 1.52pm

This is worth a read, worth a minute of your time in my opinion, it also is close to my view on things but hopefully coming from someone with more knowledge than me.

"A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.

My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).

The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.

In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.

In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.

As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

This came from our friends at Northstandchat.



 

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Quote nickgusset at 15 Nov 2015 1.12pm

Have read this morning that the Egyptian passport found belonged to a fan at the France Germany game and that the Syrian one found is a forgery.

Too soon to be certain of anything yet.

 


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