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Stuk Flag Top half 28 Jul 15 6.16pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

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Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

The solution should be just to turn the boats back.


The better solution would be to abolish the schengen agreement.

Edited by Stuk (28 Jul 2015 6.18pm)

 

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johnno42000 Flag 28 Jul 15 6.20pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm

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Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm

Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

I'm not sure about that. There is a rather fat looking Arab chap who has taken over a fair portion of Mirandole beach on the French Riviera. Just flew in he did.

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Edited by johnno42000 (28 Jul 2015 6.22pm)

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 28 Jul 15 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

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Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm

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Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm

Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

I'm not sure about that. There is a rather fat looking Arab chap who has taken over a fair portion of Mirandole beach on the French Riviera. Just flew in he did.

[Link]

Edited by johnno42000 (28 Jul 2015 6.22pm)

His wives need to be able to sunbathe topless.

 

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johnno42000 Flag 28 Jul 15 6.38pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 6.29pm

Quote johnno42000 at 28 Jul 2015 6.20pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 2.03pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm

Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

I'm not sure about that. There is a rather fat looking Arab chap who has taken over a fair portion of Mirandole beach on the French Riviera. Just flew in he did.

[Link]

Edited by johnno42000 (28 Jul 2015 6.22pm)

His wives need to be able to sunbathe topless.

 

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corkery Flag Cork City 28 Jul 15 7.15pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 6.16pm

Quote corkery at 28 Jul 2015 5.54pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 2.03pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm

Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

The solution should be just to turn the boats back.


The better solution would be to abolish the schengen agreement.

Edited by Stuk (28 Jul 2015 6.18pm)


It's only a matter of time before that happens, at least temporarily.
Hungary had the right idea, build a wall.

 

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Stuk Flag Top half 28 Jul 15 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote corkery at 28 Jul 2015 7.15pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 6.16pm

Quote corkery at 28 Jul 2015 5.54pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 2.03pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm

Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

The solution should be just to turn the boats back.


The better solution would be to abolish the schengen agreement.

Edited by Stuk (28 Jul 2015 6.18pm)


It's only a matter of time before that happens, at least temporarily.
Hungary had the right idea, build a wall.


Sadly there's no chance of that happening. It's not in the interests of those on the continent and as such will never have the numbers needed to vote to overturn it.

Walls don't work for those within but borders did.

 

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Boooo Flag 28 Jul 15 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Boooo Add Boooo as a friend

Quote corkery at 28 Jul 2015 5.54pm

Quote Stuk at 28 Jul 2015 2.37pm

Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 10.31pm

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Quote corkery at 27 Jul 2015 1.54pm

Quote npn at 27 Jul 2015 1.25pm

Simple solution: EU wide asylum policy.

Regardless of where you enter the EU, you go into a pot and are allocated to whichever country is next in line (so if you apply in England or in Germany, your application is processed in the same way and if successful you are allocated to individual countries of the EU based on rules).

Nope, ye caused the problem, ye can take them. It's not fair on other countries.



I trust Ireland remembers that stance when they're receiving their EU grants from the likes of the 3rd largest net contributors to their budget?

Sadly, we have to pay all that money back. However, the countries that didn't cause it should not have to pay for it.

If you let one in, it's an incentive for others, as we know the people in Calais are not Syrians, they are economic migrants.

Edited by corkery (27 Jul 2015 10.46pm)


By "ye" you mean Spain, Italy and Greece then?

They're the entry points after all, not France or the UK.

The solution should be just to turn the boats back.

Like Australia do.

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 28 Jul 15 8.38pm

Quote nickgusset at 27 Jul 2015 4.17pm

I meant one example of post colonial failure.

What about some other examples, or are you just going to use Zimambwe as justification for your seeming desire to be like what we was in the old days with our empire and what not.


Post colonial failure suggests that there was some kind of measurement of post colonial success that we failed to achieve. What would that have looked like? What was it we did after the Empire collapsed that should be regarded as a failure?
In 1948 there were 400 million people entitled to come here as of right. Other countries in the Empire started putting restrictions on them before we did. Where many of the countries who gained their independence had bad experiences afterwards they naturally assert that it was all our fault. any success is of course a result of their own enlightened administration. We can look forward to the same thing from the Scots of course.
It is fashionable to try and promote colonial guilt but I think history will be quite kind when it looks back on our retreat from Empire.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 29 Jul 15 7.25am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

2,000 of them tried to get through last night. One died. If Adolf couldn't make it across the 22 miles I can't see these chaps succeeding.

Seriously though, if we want them to turn back why don't we just ask the French to put up a giant poster at the entrance with the words 'this is what awaits you' and the image of Miranda Hart.

 

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Quote Catfish at 28 Jul 2015 8.38pm

Quote nickgusset at 27 Jul 2015 4.17pm

I meant one example of post colonial failure.

What about some other examples, or are you just going to use Zimambwe as justification for your seeming desire to be like what we was in the old days with our empire and what not.


Post colonial failure suggests that there was some kind of measurement of post colonial success that we failed to achieve. What would that have looked like? What was it we did after the Empire collapsed that should be regarded as a failure?
In 1948 there were 400 million people entitled to come here as of right. Other countries in the Empire started putting restrictions on them before we did. Where many of the countries who gained their independence had bad experiences afterwards they naturally assert that it was all our fault. any success is of course a result of their own enlightened administration. We can look forward to the same thing from the Scots of course.
It is fashionable to try and promote colonial guilt but I think history will be quite kind when it looks back on our retreat from Empire.


Also countries like Rwanda and Mozambique wanted to join the commonwealth despite neither having ever been part of the British Empire.

 
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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 29 Jul 15 8.52am

The only answer to the Calais chancers is to remove the incentive. The problem is that noone can agree what the incentive is. The popular assumption is that they want benefits but there is little evidence of widespread benefit abuse and DWP and HMRC have tightened up their act in recent years. The other view is that they want work, but all the migrants to other parts of Europe also want work - so why the attraction of the UK?

I think the answer is that it is far easier to disappear into the hidden economy in this country. Elsewhere you can't get work or services or function normally without an ID card. Here you can easily register with a GP, get your children into school, find work all without producing an ID card. What's not to like?

If people really want to clamp down on illegal migration they have to accept that their own liberties may be affected.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 29 Jul 15 9.01am Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Or.... machine guns could be used.

 

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