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corkery Flag Cork City 08 Jul 14 6.21pm Send a Private Message to corkery Add corkery as a friend

What's wrong with Israel? It's like them want to Palestinians to attack them.

 


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glazedallover Flag Allier 08 Jul 14 6.24pm Send a Private Message to glazedallover Add glazedallover as a friend

Quote corkery at 08 Jul 2014 6.21pm

What's wrong with Israel? It's like them want to Palestinians to attack them.

QED.

Game over.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 08 Jul 14 7.16pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 08 Jul 14 7.57pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 08 Jul 14 9.37pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

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Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jul 14 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Israel is surrounded by enemies. Creating a Palestinian state right next to it that also hates it and becomes powerful due to a balanced state agreement doesn't exactly make a lot of sense.....If your ambition is to cement the Israel state and ensure its survival.

I've looked for information on the Camp David meeting and it's fair to say that Arafat was in a difficult position with an offer that.....While better than anything ever available before to the Palestinians....It was in reality a starting place for a state rather than a viable state..It appears Ghosty has a point here...

The Palestinian state would have depended upon Israel....No doubt this was a powerful chip that Rabin meant to hold to ensure that the state didn't build up and then threaten Israel....Becoming a more powerful staging post for any future war with any of its enemies.

Those who criticise Israel for not giving the Palestinians a proper state seem not to appreciate how difficult this is.....It could literally be sowing the seed for their own destruction.

Until the moderates rule the roost in Palestine.....We will be forever stuck in this disaster of a situation.

The more you think about it creating a Palestinian state has to be based upon it not attacking Israel....I'm not sure how you ensure this without making it partly dependent upon Israel being at peace.....A water supply is pretty powerful in that regard.

It's a tricky one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jul 2014 10.05pm)

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Jul 14 8.18am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 9.37pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Jul 2014 7.57pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 09 Jul 14 8.27am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.18am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 9.37pm

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Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?


Tell you what. Copy and paste into Google a significant part of my post and see what you come up with. Please feel free to link the plagiarism.

Happy hunt.


 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Jul 14 8.47am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 8.27am

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.18am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 9.37pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Jul 2014 7.57pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?


Tell you what. Copy and paste into Google a significant part of my post and see what you come up with. Please feel free to link the plagiarism.

Happy hunt.


I would imagine, that as a bored house husband with time on your hands, you can change words enough to cover your tracks.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 09 Jul 14 9.44am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.47am

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 8.27am

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.18am

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Quote matt_himself at 08 Jul 2014 7.57pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?


Tell you what. Copy and paste into Google a significant part of my post and see what you come up with. Please feel free to link the plagiarism.

Happy hunt.


I would imagine, that as a bored house husband with time on your hands, you can change words enough to cover your tracks.


I so wish I could swap lives with you. Park Hill, no children, commute, a meaningless job. You've got it made, sunshine.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 09 Jul 14 10.25am Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 9.44am

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.47am

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 8.27am

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Quote matt_himself at 08 Jul 2014 7.57pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?


Tell you what. Copy and paste into Google a significant part of my post and see what you come up with. Please feel free to link the plagiarism.

Happy hunt.


I would imagine, that as a bored house husband with time on your hands, you can change words enough to cover your tracks.


I so wish I could swap lives with you. Park Hill, no children, commute, a meaningless job. You've got it made, sunshine.


Come on Kermit. You can do better than that.

Focus.

 


"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 10.25am

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 9.44am

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.47am

Quote Kermit8 at 09 Jul 2014 8.27am

Quote matt_himself at 09 Jul 2014 8.18am

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 9.37pm

Quote matt_himself at 08 Jul 2014 7.57pm

Quote Kermit8 at 08 Jul 2014 7.16pm

Once Rabin was assassinated and Likud re-gained power the two-state solution was never really going to happen.

For them to sign Israel;

1) demanded control of another country's - Palestine - airspace.

2) The right for their military to enter Palestine anytime they saw fit.

3) Do a land swap. Palestine giving up more fertile and valuable land and, if reports are true, Israel giving inferior quality land in return.

For Palestinians to sign they demanded the right of return of all refugees which on one level was very fair but, in truth, unworkable and reasonable of Israel to resist the total. The original 750,000 had now become 4million what with their babies being born stateless over the last 65 years.


In short - I don't believe the right-wing of Israeli politics at the time any intention whatsoever of thrashing out a two-state solution and instead scuppered it with unreasonable demands and Arafat also but to a lesser degree.

Clinton obviously pissed off not to be The President recognised as being the one to finally solve the crisis.


Which website did you copy and paste that from, Wolfie?


mybrainvyourbullsh1t.com

From the brain that predicted Britain will be overrun with nazis in high office in ten years time as a result of UKIP doing well in the polls.

Cut the crap. Where did you cut and paste it from? Did JamieIknowitall send you a link to his favourite websites?


Tell you what. Copy and paste into Google a significant part of my post and see what you come up with. Please feel free to link the plagiarism.

Happy hunt.


I would imagine, that as a bored house husband with time on your hands, you can change words enough to cover your tracks.


I so wish I could swap lives with you. Park Hill, no children, commute, a meaningless job. You've got it made, sunshine.


Come on Kermit. You can do better than that.

Focus.


I rather think, Matthew, is it you who can do better than that.

You may be more than half-way through your life you know. Time waits for no man.

 


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