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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 12 Sep 19 8.23pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Fits right in with the Governer of the Bank of England's repeated calls to improve productivity but inefficiently employing a load of lazy gits who blame all their problems on others. They will solve the problem of over entitlement on the youth. Also - related to other posts - can we get this factually correct. BJ is not advocating we leave the EU without a deal. He is saying that we need to keep it on the table to give ourselves the best platform to negotiate from. The Labour party have continuously shown they are politically naive and dont seem to grasp this. The naivety is all with those who believe that playing bluff with our future is a credible, let alone responsible, way for a government to behave. This isn't poker when you are risking your own money. You are risking our children's future. If you seriously think those who oppose this strategy, including Corbyn, don't understand it then you are really naive. Of course they do, but they can see just how foolish it is. It might look like a good tactic to the loud mouth down the pub but it really isn't because it can so easily go completely wrong. You just don't take that kind of risk in the hope it will put on enough pressure to get what you want. The EU will not blink in those circumstances because they have far too much to lose by doing so. They would swallow hard and accept the pain of a no deal.
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| silvertop Portishead 12 Sep 19 8.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Twaddle. A second referendum is invalid. Do you seriously think that those idiot Remainers would accept a second leave win any more than the first anyway? Are there really people that genuinely can't see that Remainers are determined to block Brexit under any circumstances? All the political posturing is just misdirection.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Sep 19 8.52pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I don't see anything he said that was inaccurate myself. What point was rubbish?
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Sep 19 8.56pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I say this hand on heart that it’s a shame there has been no control of immigration from the EU or any member states when all EU migrants I’ve met have been good to meet. But that isn’t the full story. Yeah kind of Ironic that the EU believe that all fish caught in British waters belong to the EU, but anyone caught floundering in a rubber dinghy is the UKs problem. We should be shipping them straight back & dumping them onto French & Belgian beaches.
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corkery  Cork City 12 Sep 19 10.35pm |
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A group of Eastern European countries agreed today that amongst others, Albania should be allowed join the EU. A third of the country has already left illegally since the end of the cold war.
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| Stirlingsays 12 Sep 19 10.50pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Yeah kind of Ironic that the EU believe that all fish caught in British waters belong to the EU, but anyone caught floundering in a rubber dinghy is the UKs problem. We should be shipping them straight back & dumping them onto French & Belgian beaches. I wonder what the policy is on mermaids?
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| Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 12 Sep 19 11.26pm |
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Originally posted by corkery
A group of Eastern European countries agreed today that amongst others, Albania should be allowed join the EU. A third of the country has already left illegally since the end of the cold war. Mapleleaf will be happy!! I believe he taught Albanian in the mid 70s
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jeeagles  13 Sep 19 1.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The naivety is all with those who believe that playing bluff with our future is a credible, let alone responsible, way for a government to behave. This isn't poker when you are risking your own money. You are risking our children's future. If you seriously think those who oppose this strategy, including Corbyn, don't understand it then you are really naive. Of course they do, but they can see just how foolish it is. It might look like a good tactic to the loud mouth down the pub but it really isn't because it can so easily go completely wrong. You just don't take that kind of risk in the hope it will put on enough pressure to get what you want. The EU will not blink in those circumstances because they have far too much to lose by doing so. They would swallow hard and accept the pain of a no deal. I think you are caught up in the hysteria. An EU nation can still veto an extension, if for example, they dont want our MEPs taking their seats. The EU also dont want to put their citizens at risk or explain why they are taking a course that's damaging for it's own fragile economies simply to save face. That will not go down well with the electorate. What will happen in my view, is that we'll get very close to leaving on WTO terms, then strike a deal where both parties agree to keep the status quo for now, in line with the repeal act, then slowly diverge over time.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 19 8.07am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Tell me which part is wrong.
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| Mapletree Croydon 13 Sep 19 9.06am |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
Mapleleaf will be happy!! I believe he taught Albanian in the mid 70s I don’t recall Albania has a relatively high life expectancy and level of education, with most Albanians being polyglot. It has low levels of violent crime and of corruption.
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| Only 10 a year!! 13 Sep 19 9.08am |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
I think you are caught up in the hysteria. An EU nation can still veto an extension, if for example, they dont want our MEPs taking their seats. The EU also dont want to put their citizens at risk or explain why they are taking a course that's damaging for it's own fragile economies simply to save face. That will not go down well with the electorate. What will happen in my view, is that we'll get very close to leaving on WTO terms, then strike a deal where both parties agree to keep the status quo for now, in line with the repeal act, then slowly diverge over time.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 13 Sep 19 9.31am |
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Originally posted by Mapletree
I don’t recall Albania has a relatively high life expectancy and level of education, with most Albanians being polyglot. It has low levels of violent crime and of corruption. Maybe that is because they export all their criminals. We had three helping themselves to stuff in people's gardens around where I live last week.
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