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  SW19 CPFC  Addiscombe West 12 Sep 19 10.43am |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
I see a pattern here.... TBF there are plenty of rabid remainers. Everyone loves an extremist, especially round here.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 12 Sep 19 11.03am |
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Who would have thought it?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 12 Sep 19 11.23am |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Yes and 48% LOST what dont you understand about that? LOST means LOST in a referendum that the MPs promised to honour the result.....THEY LIED!!! I will never vote for any party ever again!! Edited by the silurian (12 Sep 2019 9.33am) What don't you understand about Politicians having a duty to react to events if, in their judgement, they are sufficiently important to have to change a previously stated position. The 48% who "lost" are not the only ones whose interests matter, alongside the 52% who "won". (Many on both sides not all sharing exactly the same level of commitment to the causes. It was a very simple question that was asked.) There are those who decided not to vote but even more importantly there are the millions of under 18 year olds who couldn't vote but whose lives will be more impacted than any of us. MPs have to take all of these things into consideration. The truth is that, having made their promises, and despite many of them disagreeing with the decision, they have striven to find a way to leave that doesn't harm the UK more than is necessary. So far it hasn't been possible to find enough support for the negotiated arrangement to get Parliamentary approval. No-one lied. They just did their job. It's all very unfortunate but the whole country is split almost down the middle over this. Parliament clearly has a majority against leaving without a proper agreement in place, and some now argue that so much time has elapsed that we ought to check again what the people as a whole now think before making any steps that we might later regret. I disagree with them as I think Parliament alone should make these decisions.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Sep 19 11.31am |
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None of the remainers are willing to live in the one step back for the two stops forward era we want to leave for. A real shame, but when their offspring and so on, or even they are experiencing things they’re ignoring now, and may pretend aren’t an issue in the future, s0d ‘em. I’m disillusioned with many factors of the direction this country is going but if they want to continue that then get ready for the negatives to get more negative for more people.
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cryrst  The garden of England 12 Sep 19 11.36am |
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Being updated in a couple of days so let's wait.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Sep 19 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
None of the remainers are willing to live in the one step back for the two stops forward era we want to leave for. A real shame, but when their offspring and so on, or even they are experiencing things they’re ignoring now, and may pretend aren’t an issue in the future, s0d ‘em. I’m disillusioned with many factors of the direction this country is going but if they want to continue that then get ready for the negatives to get more negative for more people. This is the nonsensical argument that leavers will come up with when they are confronted with their own failure, and rush to avoid blame.
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 12 Sep 19 11.38am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
None of the remainers are willing to live in the one step back for the two stops forward era we want to leave for. A real shame, but when their offspring and so on, or even they are experiencing things they’re ignoring now, and may pretend aren’t an issue in the future, s0d ‘em. I’m disillusioned with many factors of the direction this country is going but if they want to continue that then get ready for the negatives to get more negative for more people. Let's be honest, that's not guaranteed. You could well be right, but it's just as fanciful as saying remaining in the EU will be better than leaving in the long term. No-one knows, hence why most people can only respond to what is happening/will happen now and in the immediate future. Normacly bias also applies here, so leaving is even more scary to most people. With this farce playing out daily, 'Just keep it the same' has never been so appealing to the average Joe. That said it's interesting to see a rare admission from a brexiteer that leaving is, at least in the short term, going to have a negative effect. Some objectivity at last.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 12 Sep 19 11.46am |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Let's be honest, that's not guaranteed. You could well be right, but it's just as fanciful as saying remaining in the EU will be better than leaving in the long term. No-one knows, hence why most people can only respond to what is happening/will happen now and in the immediate future. Normacly bias also applies here, so leaving is even more scary to most people. With this farce playing out daily, 'Just keep it the same' has never been so appealing to the average Joe. That said it's interesting to see a rare admission from a brexiteer that leaving is, at least in the short term, going to have a negative effect. Some objectivity at last. The position now is that they all knew this all along, and voted leave in spite of it - never mind that a huge part of the leave campaign was about financing to the EU, leavers didn’t vote for economic reasons. Similar to how everyone really wanted no deal all along, despite being told pre-referendum it would be the easiest trade deal in history. Easier to shift the goalposts than admit you were sold bulls***, init? (Before the usual tiresome ‘I know what I voted for’ respnoses, this is true in all walks of life and certainly not exclusive to Brexit or leavers).
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| steeleye20 Croydon 12 Sep 19 12.00pm |
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The truth about brexit is that thee are no benefits whatsoever. Johnson, who was originally against brexit, saw his route to power and unlimited wealth. What an opportunity, and he and his backers will become filthy rich. Brexiteers are real suckers. Democracy? We won't bother with that.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Sep 19 12.09pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Let's be honest, that's not guaranteed. You could well be right, but it's just as fanciful as saying remaining in the EU will be better than leaving in the long term. No-one knows, hence why most people can only respond to what is happening/will happen now and in the immediate future. Normacly bias also applies here, so leaving is even more scary to most people. With this farce playing out daily, 'Just keep it the same' has never been so appealing to the average Joe. That said it's interesting to see a rare admission from a brexiteer that leaving is, at least in the short term, going to have a negative effect. Some objectivity at last. I agree with what you’re saying. Lots of us were aware that things would be difficult. We didn’t vote leave because we didn’t know what we were voting for. Most people are not stupid enough to think that either side of ‘deals made tomorrow’ or ‘financial ruin’ were 100% correct and that the reality wasn’t somewhere in between. I do want us to leave because the lack of planning and gradual decline of everything other than rigid large companies and this ponzi immigration policy, or no policy, has to stop imo. But ultimately I won’t give a flying fvck when they’re all regretting remaining, being tied up in this when I’m dying. Everyone is becoming so self interested or selfish, why should I? Btw, I voted in the belief that Brexit would give us the chance, motivation and impetus to change course, because we won’t do it for any other reason. It’s a shame we don’t have more balls any more like Germany, although we have the sense of humour they don’t, even if Hennimg Berg is pretty funny. But soon we won’t have a sense of humour if the people at the forefront of social media almost steering opinion and thinking get their way. Britain is dying and ceasing to exist. May as well watch them kill it off as they want to.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 12 Sep 19 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The truth about brexit is that thee are no benefits whatsoever. Johnson, who was originally against brexit, saw his route to power and unlimited wealth. What an opportunity, and he and his backers will become filthy rich. Brexiteers are real suckers. Democracy? We won't bother with that.
Can you please tell us how Boris’s backers are going to become filthy rich after Brexit.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 12 Sep 19 12.18pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
This is the nonsensical argument that leavers will come up with when they are confronted with their own failure, and rush to avoid blame. What failure is that? We won the Referendum and no one has screwed up this process except Remainers.
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