John Bercow was not involved in any way, other than in trying to ensure that Parliament and not the executive took the final decisions.

I anticipate that Gina Miller, as she has always done, will be working quietly away from the spotlight, helping to put together the group that will find a consensus and then provide an effective long term strategy to reverse the current stupidity.

We need an effective opposition as never before and right now that has to be outside of Parliament given the determination of the Labour Party to commit suicide.

This point was made in jest. However I do think we need a different political system as the current one does not appear to have the confidence of the people.

I don't always agree your long posts but it is hard to disagree with any of that.

Brexit puts me in mind of the last words of the defending lawyer in the excellent Making of a Murderer. The guy was so obviously stitched up and the guilty verdict so fundamentally flawed. He said I hope he did it and the jury was right. It was the only way to make sense of complete madness. Thus I hope brexiteers are right. I hope we will grow and prosper as a wealthy strong independent country with a booming trade balance and a say in the way the world is run. I sincerely hope my fears are unfounded and that I have been brainwashed by an establishment with interests vested in remaining.

MP's represent all of their constituents? - in an ideal world yes, but in reality no.

As an example.

Diane Abbott - "white people like to play divide and rule"

or sending her son to Private School, when calling out other people.

I very much doubt Mrs Abbott gives a rat's arse about the people who don't agree and don't vote for her as I am equally sure that in some affluent Tory seats the incumbent couldn't give a monkey's about the views on a council estate.

I have no more time for Diane Abbott than you. There will always be bad apples in any big barrel.

I hate a lot of the knuckle dragging and frankly racist overtones of some of the vocal leave camp, but nor does the "holier than though, I'm more intelligent than you and only I can see this for what it really is" of the remain side make me change my viewpoint.

Not everyone who voted leave is an ill-educated, racist moron.

I have always accepted that there are good and bad people on both sides of the argument. My primary objection is that no-one, whichever stance they took, was in a position to truly understand the complexity. That's not our fault. We aren't experts.

I get the feeling what you don't like is that fact the ones making the decisions now are not necessarily in line with your own views. But when the North of England is returning Tory MP's - that is a clue that the seeds of change are present.

I disagree with the thinking of those now in charge. The reason the North has swung to the Tories has much more to do with the demise of Labour than anything to do with the Tories. That and the misinformation constantly spoon fed to them by the Sun, Mail and Express.

We require an effective opposition - of that no doubt.

But what I've heard in the last 4 weeks.

"Boris fought the election on one issue - Brexit and people fell for it"

"People are stupid to believe the Tories"

and yourself above

Obviously but completely beside the point. The argument is not whether people supported it or not. It is why they did and whether they had sufficient information to be able to reach an informed decision. It is whether highly complex and technical issues such as this, involving not just matters of national pride but economic, social and security issues fundamental to the futures not just of ourselves but of the coming generations, ought to be decided by a plebiscite.

The election came three years after Brexit - and all the bulls*** spouted had come out. Maybe, rather than insulting people as too stupid to decide, or thinking that your opinion is more valid, as clearly you are more intelligent and understand it - you should concede that the country has spoken and the failure largely sits with the remain camp, that acted with frankly total complacency that it just had to turn up.

It has nothing to do with people being too stupid to decide. People who aren't brain surgeons are not stupid as a consequence.It is about allowing those who have the time and access to information, who have been chosen by us to represent us, to take these complex decisions on our behalf. As a Parliament our MPs were against Brexit. That ought to tell us something.

Personally I didn't vote out for reasons of immigration or £350million per week to the NHS. I do believe countries such as Greece though need to be able have their own currency back, to enable them to attract Tourism back like places such as Croatia and Montenegro - both outside of the Euro. That is not going to happen unless a comparatively wealthy country that is a net contributor takes a stand.

I respect that view, even though I disagree with it as I think there is a better way to achieve the desired outcome.

I also believe the Euro state is bloated, there is a lot of corruption and as it expands the risks become greater.

I have always accepted that reform is needed.

There comes a point where the electorate sees politicians as just holding up the process and rightly or wrongly it is perceived as Parliament NOT listening to constituents.

Wrongly in my view which suggests that more explanation and involvement is needed.

One thing is for sure though - they will ignore the public at their peril moving forwards.

Our future is always in our own hands.

Oh and you might find you catch more flies with honey, being pompous is just more likely to make people dig in against you.

I have been accused of being pompous many times and I am sorry if I come over that way. It isn't intentional. I see myself as passionate and determined to express myself forcibly.

Unfortunately a comparison with our prosperity in or out cannot be made.
The eu and their rules are changing all of the time.
Who's to say we wouldn't negatively be affected by remaining.
All you can do is look forwards and accept the UK is now in a different place.

I'm sorry that you lost your job I also lost mine in 2002.

I too worked for a US company and they moved it to Ireland largely due to the EU tax benefits the Irish were awarded at that time. 10 years later when that tax deal ran out they moved the jobs to India the Irish Times complained about this forgetting where they pinched the jobs in the first pace.

Companies will always do what they think is in their best interest if the UK offers a tax deal like the Irish had they will be flooding back.