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 CambridgeEagle  Sydenham 23 May 17 9.08am |
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Originally posted by Hansy
Corbyn has also performed U-Turns. No modern politician is great. Yet a good politician has the backing from their parties. Trident - Wanted to scrap Trident at his Party conference. Then dropped the subject from the agenda altogether. EU - Was in favour of leaving the EU. A month later reversed that statement. Privy Council - Advised he was not invited. Then said he would attend but not kneel to the Queen. Welfare - Vowed to scrap the Tory Benefit freeze. Announced scrapping the bedroom tax, cuts to housing benefit for U21s, no mention of Benefit freeze Agreed, not as huge as May. But he's not been PM. Edited by Hansy (22 May 2017 10.50pm) One important point to note is that Corbyn doesn't unilaterally decide on Labour policy. So he's perfectly within his rights, even as leader, to have different opinions from the policies in the manifesto. The important thing is that they are in the manifesto and will be government policy if they win. Trident has always been Labour policy despite Corbyn not being in favour, as has being pro-EU (much as it was official Tory party policy).
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 23 May 17 9.10am |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
There's actually some evidence that Dementia is likely to drop over the coming years as a result of improved living standards and preventative care...coupled with improving medication and research. Hoping that this will solve the problem is like putting your house on red at the casino. We need a proper national social care service akin to the NHS. Not this Tory dementia tax.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 23 May 17 10.08am |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
Originally posted by Kermit8
Just don't see how it could work going by my daughter's primary. Kids aren't allowed to be on school premises before 8.35 and any that are are in 'The Breakfast Club' which has to be paid for and is not cheap. Lunch is much better, inclusive, bigger and more fun for the kids than a piece of toast and cornflakes at 8:15a.m This lot are now charging kids £1.50 or £2 just to eat their sandwiches in the dinner hall , its the free market economy, why ever not! I do not know where you dug that little gem up from because the kids down here do not pay a penny to sit in the dining hall and eat their pack lunches. Also for the £2 a day breakfast club is pretty good too as the kids get a vast choice for what they want. The reason we have to pay £2 per day is because the teachers wanted to make a bit more money for coming in early despite their great wages they get anyway!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 May 17 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How? Because the poorer you are the more you spend, so if you're taxing mainly goods, it's more as a percentage of income the state is taking the less you earn. You'll end up with CEO's paying 10% tax, having more savings and bigger property portfolios to rent out to plebs.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 May 17 10.16am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Hoping that this will solve the problem is like putting your house on red at the casino. We need a proper national social care service akin to the NHS. Not this Tory dementia tax. Lyons is right, they are more forthcoming with preventative measures, how effective we'll find out. I'm sure I saw on BBC that there is a pill that's either close or should be released and it's being held back till 2019. I'm not sure whether it's preventative, slowing or curing. Current medication doesn't do anything.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 23 May 17 10.19am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
One important point to note is that Corbyn doesn't unilaterally decide on Labour policy. So he's perfectly within his rights, even as leader, to have different opinions from the policies in the manifesto. The important thing is that they are in the manifesto and will be government policy if they win. Trident has always been Labour policy despite Corbyn not being in favour, as has being pro-EU (much as it was official Tory party policy).
I think that was more to do with the currency of the respective leaders. Lots of people have already commented on how few Labour candidates have any reference to Corbyn on their literature. Whilst the Tories keep being called the Nasty party so they are focusing on May who so far (recent NHS U turn aside) seems to resonate with a lot of people.
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| Hansy 23 May 17 10.21am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
One important point to note is that Corbyn doesn't unilaterally decide on Labour policy. So he's perfectly within his rights, even as leader, to have different opinions from the policies in the manifesto. The important thing is that they are in the manifesto and will be government policy if they win. Trident has always been Labour policy despite Corbyn not being in favour, as has being pro-EU (much as it was official Tory party policy).
The leader builds a big part of the manifesto, along with their perspective cabinet. This is the most left-sided manifesto from Labour we have seen in a long time, which suggests Corbyn had a huge part in it. Maybe not as left as he had hoped, but he had to meet in the middle ground with other Labour MPs for them to sign it off I'd imagine. Plus reducing the Armed Forces size, removing the Trident etc. Will not be appealing to some that are now swinging towards Labour. Just my opinion.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 23 May 17 10.21am |
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Originally posted by susmik
I do not know where you dug that little gem up from because the kids down here do not pay a penny to sit in the dining hall and eat their pack lunches. Also for the £2 a day breakfast club is pretty good too as the kids get a vast choice for what they want. The reason we have to pay £2 per day is because the teachers wanted to make a bit more money for coming in early despite their great wages they get anyway!
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 23 May 17 10.30am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
One important point to note is that Corbyn doesn't unilaterally decide on Labour policy. So he's perfectly within his rights, even as leader, to have different opinions from the policies in the manifesto. The important thing is that they are in the manifesto and will be government policy if they win. Trident has always been Labour policy despite Corbyn not being in favour, as has being pro-EU (much as it was official Tory party policy). It was interesting to see the manifesto launches and the Tories being very much Theresa and her manifesto and Labour being a manifesto from the Labour movement. It is laughable that you think it is feasible for a candidate for Prime Minister to hold diametric views from his manifesto on two of the most important issues, Brexit and defence.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 23 May 17 10.32am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Hoping that this will solve the problem is like putting your house on red at the casino. We need a proper national social care service akin to the NHS. Not this Tory dementia tax. I agree ...but there again I never said i didnt...
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 23 May 17 10.34am |
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Originally posted by Hansy
The leader builds a big part of the manifesto, along with their perspective cabinet. This is the most left-sided manifesto from Labour we have seen in a long time, which suggests Corbyn had a huge part in it. Maybe not as left as he had hoped, but he had to meet in the middle ground with other Labour MPs for them to sign it off I'd imagine. Plus reducing the Armed Forces size, removing the Trident etc. Will not be appealing to some that are now swinging towards Labour. Just my opinion. Also if you read the manifesto they commit to 2% of GDP on defence spending, renewing trident and providing more support for our armed forces personnel in their daily lives. It's the same level of spending as the Tories but with more practical help to the people in the army etc. who are struggling to make ends meet.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 23 May 17 10.37am |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
It is laughable that you think it is feasible for a candidate for Prime Minister to hold diametric views from his manifesto on two of the most important issues, Brexit and defence.
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