You should get out more. I think ex pats living in the US may not be genuinely representative eh?

Just like Europeans living in London may not necessarily be representative eh? I'd tell you to get out more, but today alone you've probably cured Leukemia & sailed the Barrier Reef (& all before Lunch)!!

That .makes no sense.

Also if leavers get in a strop and withdraw their vote then remainers will dominate politics for a generation.

Oh I understood your post, you just think youre so clever dont you, seems like you are in a minority though, most people think youre just an argumentative old fool. What are the massive changes in circumstances?

I'll ignore the personal insults as ducks have more permeable backs than me. I accept I am a minority here, but that's far from true in the real world. If you don't think that Parliament failing to find a way to exit that they can reach a majority decision on is not a significant change to their original position then I don't think you are being realistic.

We voted OUT and most MPs are doing their utmost to renege on that deal....'we will honour the result of the referendum'...yeah right! Self serving bunch they are!!

You voted out but 48% of us didn't. Their interests, along with everyone who did not vote or could not vote matter too. MPs represent us all and have not been trying to renege on anything. They have been trying to find an exit that does the least harm but know that leaving without a formal agreement is irresponsible and not what most people wanted.

If, as you say the EU dont want a no deal, they are certainly going about it in a strange way....if they had only given Cameron a little bit when he went to them, none of this s*** would be happening....they really just want to punish us for leaving and to stop anyone else wanting to leave...Frexit? Spanexit? Certainly lots of people here in France would love to get out

I have little doubt that the EU now regret not offering Cameron a little more but they didn't expect the result anymore than anyone else did. For sure it isn't in their overall interests to be overly generous and set a precedent.

Edited by the silurian (11 Sep 2019 9.40pm)

So the latest iteration of yellowhammer is out.

We’ve already spent 8bn on no deal mitigation, 2bn of which was hastily added recently as it became a genuine possibility.

As expected some claims have been overblown, but the devil is in the detail. Enough of which is too much disruption for no good reason, especially when the option of a deal is viable.

Still want a no deal at all costs? Anyone got a knife for all these noses? Like moths to a flame.

I’d rather leave with a deal, thanks very much.

Hopefully this will put the final nail in the coffin of the idea that leaving without a deal is an acceptable alternative in ANY circumstances.

Hopefully it will also lay to rest the idea that Parliament are fighting against the wishes of the people. Nobody wishes to be poorer and Parliament is acting in their interests.