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 inflikted  11 Mar 23 9.09pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Haven't the impartiality guidelines changed since Neil's time? Well on top of that the previous chair of the BBC has been on the news saying that the impartiality rules only apply to news and current affairs presenters, which would also excuse Lineker.
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Teddy Eagle  11 Mar 23 9.32pm |
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Originally posted by inflikted
Well on top of that the previous chair of the BBC has been on the news saying that the impartiality rules only apply to news and current affairs presenters, which would also excuse Lineker. I guess Lineker's high profile makes him a special case?
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| inflikted 11 Mar 23 9.36pm |
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SNAP POLL: Britons say BBC was wrong to suspend Gary Lineker All Britons: 27% right / 53% wrong
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Mar 23 10.44pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
No. There are several issues, but that's not one of them. Lineker is not an employee. He is a freelancer on a contract. None of us know what that contract says. There is a difference of opinion on what the rules about impartiality mean. Greg Dyke says they only apply to the area of your own speciality. So news and current affairs presenters should not make public political comment in their private capacity as well as on air, to ensure the BBC not only is, but is seen to be, impartial. Dyke says those rules don't apply to others, including sports presenters. Which is bourne out by the behaviour of others in the past. Taking Lineker off-air in this way creates the impression, rightly or wrongly, that the BBC is responding to government pressure. This it must never do, or we all are weakened. It will be very interesting to see how this works out. I think the BBC staff, as a whole and not just the sports department, will be hopping mad.
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| m/k mick milton keynes 11 Mar 23 10.49pm |
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Ask one question, and answer honestly, if Lineker had expressed an opinion, similar to J K Rowling, about trans gender or LBQT, what would be the opinion of the people who today are supporting him, hypocrites
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| Teddy Eagle 11 Mar 23 11.00pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No. There are several issues, but that's not one of them. Lineker is not an employee. He is a freelancer on a contract. None of us know what that contract says. There is a difference of opinion on what the rules about impartiality mean. Greg Dyke says they only apply to the area of your own speciality. So news and current affairs presenters should not make public political comment in their private capacity as well as on air, to ensure the BBC not only is, but is seen to be, impartial. Dyke says those rules don't apply to others, including sports presenters. Which is bourne out by the behaviour of others in the past. Taking Lineker off-air in this way creates the impression, rightly or wrongly, that the BBC is responding to government pressure. This it must never do, or we all are weakened. It will be very interesting to see how this works out. I think the BBC staff, as a whole and not just the sports department, will be hopping mad. Over 9000 license fees go directly into Gary Lineker's pocket. The fact that the BBC's highest paid person is apparently exempt from it's own rules is ridiculous.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 11 Mar 23 11.00pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
are you on drugs ? Lineker has alikened us to the Third Reich. an utter utter T0sser Maybe it's you who is on drugs! What he actually said was that the government are pursuing an:- "immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30s". That's not comparing us to the Third Reich. He thinks the policy is cruel and goes on to describe the language being used. The rhetoric and xenophobic terminology. Not about the people or their politics. Just the language. They are fair points, which are worth discussion, despite what you and Braverman think, or whether anyone else agrees or not. It's an opinion. In a free country we thrive on opinions.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Mar 23 11.21pm |
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Originally posted by inflikted
[Tweet Link]
SNAP POLL: Britons say BBC was wrong to suspend Gary Lineker All Britons: 27% right / 53% wrong You hardly ever post in politics, and now here you are all worked up and armed with your opinion polls. I have often suspected that the Labour Party or other Left wing organisations have sleepers who sign up to various sites and try to shut down or influence opinion on high profile matters when instructed. Maybe I just have a vivid imagination.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Mar 23 11.28pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Maybe it's you who is on drugs! What he actually said was that the government are pursuing an:- "immeasurably cruel policy directed at the most vulnerable people in language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30s". That's not comparing us to the Third Reich. He thinks the policy is cruel and goes on to describe the language being used. The rhetoric and xenophobic terminology. Not about the people or their politics. Just the language. They are fair points, which are worth discussion, despite what you and Braverman think, or whether anyone else agrees or not. It's an opinion. In a free country we thrive on opinions. Never mind all the free speech stuff. Only a total moron thinks that you can just allow ever increasing illegal immigration, which is already over loading the system, and do nothing about it.
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| CPFC1965 Warrington 12 Mar 23 1.00am |
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What is wrong with what Lineker said, we're trying to ship illegal immigrants to a country which is run by a government who orchestrated the worst genocide in the 21st century. Over 1 million butchered for being born into a minority tribe.
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| inflikted 12 Mar 23 1.56am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Never mind all the free speech stuff. Only a total moron thinks that you can just allow ever increasing illegal immigration, which is already over loading the system, and do nothing about it. "illegal immigration" (no refugees are illegal under international law) is actually down compared to how it was 20 years ago
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| georgenorman 12 Mar 23 6.46am |
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Originally posted by inflikted
"illegal immigration" (no refugees are illegal under international law) is actually down compared to how it was 20 years ago Do you think there should be controls of any sort of immigration?
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