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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 08 Sep 19 10.07pm
[Link] Oh dear someone looking 30,40,50 years ahead. Pro USA & Israel
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Oh dear someone looking 30,40,50 years ahead.

Pro USA & Israel

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Stirlingsays 08 Sep 19 10.29pm
Negotiations are a smokescreen for not leaving. Continual delays until it's accepted that we don't leave. Imagine that in 1973 the result of the referendum was not to join the EEC but then the parliament went and joined it anyway ignoring the result. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2019 10.36pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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08 Sep 19 10.29pm

Negotiations are a smokescreen for not leaving.

Continual delays until it's accepted that we don't leave.

Imagine that in 1973 the result of the referendum was not to join the EEC but then the parliament went and joined it anyway ignoring the result.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Sep 2019 10.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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silvertop Portishead 08 Sep 19 10.36pm
Originally posted by the silurian over 100 arrived last week from France..... Very amusing.
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Portishead 08 Sep 19 10.36pm

Originally posted by the silurian

over 100 arrived last week from France.....

Very amusing.

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 19 10.40pm
I see why TM called an election. With a group of blobfish no backbone MPs behind her it's clear as day. She knew this was going to happen. There are some who probably regret not taking one of their 3 chances to vote for her deals.
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The garden of England 08 Sep 19 10.40pm

I see why TM called an election.
With a group of blobfish no backbone MPs behind her it's clear as day.
She knew this was going to happen.
There are some who probably regret not taking one of their 3 chances to vote for her deals.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 19 11.05pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Which part of the government trying to honour the Referendum result don't you understand? You are as daft as a box of frogs. What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand? What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand? I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits............... For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 19 11.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Which part of the government trying to honour the Referendum result don't you understand?

You are as daft as a box of frogs.

What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand?

What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand?

I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits...............

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 19 11.08pm
Originally posted by the silurian France has already said there will be NO extention!! So then what do you suggest Wisbech? Cancel Brexit altogether? Edited by the silurian (08 Sep 2019 7.10pm) That was an off the cuff statement by one Minister. When push comes to shove wiser heads will prevail. The biggest problem isn't France, it's Hungary but even they won't want to be isolated. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 08 Sep 19 11.08pm

Originally posted by the silurian

France has already said there will be NO extention!!

So then what do you suggest Wisbech? Cancel Brexit altogether?

Edited by the silurian (08 Sep 2019 7.10pm)

That was an off the cuff statement by one Minister. When push comes to shove wiser heads will prevail. The biggest problem isn't France, it's Hungary but even they won't want to be isolated.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cpfc_chap koh samui 08 Sep 19 11.11pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand? What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand? I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits............... So if Labour came into power again should we not let them because they generally mess up the economy one way or another?
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koh samui 08 Sep 19 11.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand?

What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand?

I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits...............

So if Labour came into power again should we not let them because they generally mess up the economy one way or another?

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Teddy Eagle 08 Sep 19 11.11pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand? What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand? I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits............... And what part of the ballot paper included leaving with or without a deal?
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08 Sep 19 11.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand?

What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand?

I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits...............

And what part of the ballot paper included leaving with or without a deal?

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cpfc_chap koh samui 08 Sep 19 11.27pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And what part of the ballot paper included leaving with or without a deal? No deals going to be good enough for the current sent of mps!! I expect if all deals are rejected and no deals off the table they'll be expecting article 50 to be revoked! The only way to sort this is to have GE.
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koh samui 08 Sep 19 11.27pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And what part of the ballot paper included leaving with or without a deal?

No deals going to be good enough for the current sent of mps!! I expect if all deals are rejected and no deals off the table they'll be expecting article 50 to be revoked!

The only way to sort this is to have GE.

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cryrst The garden of England 08 Sep 19 11.30pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand? What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand? I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits............... There is no evidence at all to back up your 'damage' line. Stop thinking every mp who bats for your side knows more than the ones who dont. All ifs and buts and might and might not.
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The garden of England 08 Sep 19 11.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What part of the "Referendum result" not being to quit the EU without a deal and causing avoidable damage don't YOU understand?

What part of that we live in a Parliamentary and not a direct democracy don't YOU understand?

I won't join in the personal insults, but if the cap fits...............

There is no evidence at all to back up your 'damage' line.
Stop thinking every mp who bats for your side knows more than the ones who dont.
All ifs and buts and might and might not.

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tome Inner Tantalus Time. 09 Sep 19 12.14am
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle And what part of the ballot paper included leaving with or without a deal? A big part of the problem. The referendum largely said keep things the way they are, or change by leaving. But there are lots of different ways of doing that. Hence why there is a case for another referendum to decide whether any of these ways are actually what people want. Should have included that in the process from the start, and trigger Article 50 once these options and there implications were clearer. A one and a two...
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Inner Tantalus Time. 09 Sep 19 12.14am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And what part of the ballot paper included leaving with or without a deal?

A big part of the problem. The referendum largely said keep things the way they are, or change by leaving. But there are lots of different ways of doing that.

Hence why there is a case for another referendum to decide whether any of these ways are actually what people want. Should have included that in the process from the start, and trigger Article 50 once these options and there implications were clearer.

A one and a two...

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ex hibitionist Hastings 09 Sep 19 12.30am
Originally posted by cpfc_chap So if Labour came into power again should we not let them because they generally mess up the economy one way or another? labour didn't do black Wednesday or austerity, as long as we have separation between public and private again, not these quasi autonomous govt funded unaccountable gravy trains full of unaccountable lazy management screwing the ordinary worker: southern rail, nhs, carillion, academies, private probation and many more … it aint foreigners or benefit cheats who are bleeding the country's wealth, it's a new class of unaccountable management - where once we needed thatcher to tame the unions now we need John McDonnell to take a machete to management
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Originally posted by cpfc_chap

So if Labour came into power again should we not let them because they generally mess up the economy one way or another?

labour didn't do black Wednesday or austerity, as long as we have separation between public and private again, not these quasi autonomous govt funded unaccountable gravy trains full of unaccountable lazy management screwing the ordinary worker: southern rail, nhs, carillion, academies, private probation and many more … it aint foreigners or benefit cheats who are bleeding the country's wealth, it's a new class of unaccountable management - where once we needed thatcher to tame the unions now we need John McDonnell to take a machete to management

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