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southnorwoodhill Flag 01 Feb 21 11.36am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Frickin Saweet

what sort of decorations do you envisage gracing our fine new wall of solid foundation and neat brickwork? Some decorative iron gates, a pair of matching statues atop, or perhaps we render the facade to cover up the brickwork underneath thus creating a nice, smooth finish?

Edited by Frickin Saweet (01 Feb 2021 11.23am)

Full on Rococo, no expense spared

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 01 Feb 21 11.42am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Full on Rococo, no expense spared

we'd best be careful about the statues though.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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jeeagles Flag 01 Feb 21 4.13pm

Originally posted by Tickled pink

I'm not really interested in conversations with brick walls but we do need to know and understand how to build them, Mr Hodgson has just laid the foundation, we need someone to come in next and build the wall, the final act will be to decorate it but to just undermine our foundations now with a manager who cannot build walls properly would render Mr Hodgson's hard work a total waste of time.

Just saying he needs to go isn't going to get us anywhere, I know he is not going to be building the wall so why can't the Roy out fans on here understand he is not going to be doing it as well. Why does it matter when he goes? he will go when the club decides it's time to take the risk with someone else and when they have the available money to do it.

Do you script Roy's press conferences?
You've literally said nothing.

Roy finally changes the formation and brings Reidewald on and we start looking much more solid and win. It's taken far too long for that to happen, yet you've never said anything to justify Roy's choice of playing 3 holding midfielders for a year, which didn't work, and 4-4-2 for 6 months, which hasn't worked.

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 02 Feb 21 8.16am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by A1969Eagle

Hevent you forgotten....
Roy sets up the team
He train the players in a certain way
He sets up the formations
He lays out the tactics
The players are told to play a certain way.
They are bored "sh.tless" playing this way
OH Boy doesnt it show!
Roy has to accept the blame..

Midway through 2nd half the match last night, Wilf is so frustrated hes kicking the ball directly at their players...

Roy sets up the team
He train the players in a certain way
He sets up the formations
He lays out the tactics
The players are told to play a certain way.
Their collective ability on the ball prevents them from achieving the desired outcome.
OH Boy doesn't it show!
Players accept the blame.

So easily taken apart, try again! lol

 

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Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 02 Feb 21 9.05am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Do you script Roy's press conferences?
You've literally said nothing.

Roy finally changes the formation and brings Reidewald on and we start looking much more solid and win. It's taken far too long for that to happen, yet you've never said anything to justify Roy's choice of playing 3 holding midfielders for a year, which didn't work, and 4-4-2 for 6 months, which hasn't worked.

Yes fair enough but the win wasn't hugely convincing for me as you clearly viewed it and I feel you've jumped on it because the formation suited, but yes we did defend a lot better but this Wolves side were a lot less impressive then the one we've seen in the past, our manager is well known to be more cautious on and off the pitch with his players but having said that we have missed creativity pace and adventure and totally failed with our handling of Zaha by laying everything at his door, we have created a player who feels ha has to do everything because simply he does, the huge amount of frustration he must feel is and has done the damage to him we witness every single time he's hacked and tripped down, Eze or someone similar should've been introduced years ago, now our squad as a whole is basically completely knackered especially with the amount of games with little time to recover, but I do understand where you're coming from.

Roy is here to just get us by, I have never seen his task as one to re-build our squad and to be one that is seen to be playing in the way you say, that will be our next manger hopefully.

 

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Eaglehamster Flag Storrington 02 Feb 21 9.25am Send a Private Message to Eaglehamster Add Eaglehamster as a friend

I think the feeling on here is that we are forever trying to "just get by".

 


I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

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TheBigToePunt Flag 02 Feb 21 9.40am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

I think the feeling on here is that we are forever trying to "just get by".

Or, going flat out with a lot of very committed people running the club giving it their all, defying economic gravity, having to regularly break records and make club history in order to 'just get by'.

Would be how I'd put it. But then I lack the requisite 'ambition' apparently.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Feb 21 9.43am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

I think the feeling on here is that we are forever trying to "just get by".

I know that I've said it a million times before but we will never progress with Parish controlling the club as he doesn't have the funding to move us onwards and the other shareholders won't put money into a club that they don't control.

Ten years ago Parish said that he was a reluctant owner and was only here for the short term but that is patently untrue as it's his desire to retain a significant shareholding and continue as high profile chairman that stops others who would be interested in buying the club from doing so.

Parish has done a good job from bringing the club from where it was to where it is today but as he is unable to push us onwards any further it must be time for him to sell up and take his massive profit in the process

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 02 Feb 21 9.55am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I know that I've said it a million times before but we will never progress with Parish controlling the club as he doesn't have the funding to move us onwards and the other shareholders won't put money into a club that they don't control.

Ten years ago Parish said that he was a reluctant owner and was only here for the short term but that is patently untrue as it's his desire to retain a significant shareholding and continue as high profile chairman that stops others who would be interested in buying the club from doing so.

Parish has done a good job from bringing the club from where it was to where it is today but as he is unable to push us onwards any further it must be time for him to sell up and take his massive profit in the process

Anyone who buys the club can't just throw their own money at it. Whatever Palace spend must be attributable to what it earns. What we earn is connected to TV money, player sales, gate receipts and commercial income.

Even if the world's richest man took over they'd end up following pretty much the same blueprint Parish has: Develop the academy and the stadium to boost revenue for the team. Even Abramovich can't just write a cheque to cover Chelsea loses anymore. The days of a rich individual bankrolling a club as happened at man City from 2008 are gone.


 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 02 Feb 21 10.03am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Anyone who buys the club can't just throw their own money at it. Whatever Palace spend must be attributable to what it earns. What we earn is connected to TV money, player sales, gate receipts and commercial income.

Even if the world's richest man took over they'd end up following pretty much the same blueprint Parish has: Develop the academy and the stadium to boost revenue for the team. Even Abramovich can't just write a cheque to cover Chelsea loses anymore. The days of a rich individual bankrolling a club as happened at man City from 2008 are gone.



He just has done

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 02 Feb 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


He just has done

How so?

This from Forbes:

Chelsea recorded an after tax loss of £96m ($126.3m exchange rate 1.31) for 2018/19. This is a swing of £156m from the previous 12 months when the club generated a record profit of £60m.

Under the ownership of Roman Abramovich, Chelsea incurred sizable losses in the early years while enjoying great success on the pitch. Between 2004 and 2013 Chelsea lost over £670m and only recorded a profit in one year - 2011/12 £1m.

From 2014 to 2018 the club essentially broke even with 3 profitable years vs. 2 loss producing years.

Chelsea spent a lot this past 12 months rebuilding their team, but that is them starting a new FFP phase - they won't be able to do it again for two or three years whilst they pay off this spending.

Forbes concludes:

Assuming that the balance of Turnover vs. wages and other operating costs remains around the same Chelsea has a good chance to return to a break-even position in 2020.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 02 Feb 21 10.35am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

How so?

This from Forbes:

Chelsea recorded an after tax loss of £96m (6.3m exchange rate 1.31) for 2018/19. This is a swing of £156m from the previous 12 months when the club generated a record profit of £60m.

Under the ownership of Roman Abramovich, Chelsea incurred sizable losses in the early years while enjoying great success on the pitch. Between 2004 and 2013 Chelsea lost over £670m and only recorded a profit in one year - 2011/12 £1m.

From 2014 to 2018 the club essentially broke even with 3 profitable years vs. 2 loss producing years.

Chelsea spent a lot this past 12 months rebuilding their team, but that is them starting a new FFP phase - they won't be able to do it again for two or three years whilst they pay off this spending.

Forbes concludes:

Assuming that the balance of Turnover vs. wages and other operating costs remains around the same Chelsea has a good chance to return to a break-even position in 2020.

Having money in a club is not just about splashing it about. It attracts players as well, they see money and they see ambition, they see the chance for furthering their careers and they want to be involved with it.

Why anyone chooses us in any circumstances is frankly beyond me. Unless of course, we offer them an entirely overinflated salary, which in essence is probably what has happened, hence why we can’t get rid of any of the existing wastes of space before contract end.

This is why we need to take the Brentford approach to recruiting and get ourselves some decent scouts who can pluck future top players from obscurity. If they can do it, why can’t we? Oh yeh, it’s because we have a manager who would never trust that sort of talent to flourish at this level, so we just muddle along with 30 year olds and everyone is happy that we are doing just enough to survive.

Our approach is totally unsustainable.

 

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