If you don't think that the current version of the Tory party is far right then fair enough. I thought Thatcher was about as far from the centre as they could get but I was wrong. Not as individuals. There have always been far right individual members but as a group. The odd thing is that individually I am far from sure that they all really think like that.

The bogeyman here is not even in Parliament and his name wasn't mentioned by anyone yesterday.

The shadow of Farage looms long over everything that Johnson and his puppet masters are trying to do.

If there is a GE watch for the deal being cooked up between Farage and Johnson, with Trump's encouragement and Putin smiling benignly in the background.

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Oh I regret having to repeat myself as much as anyone else does but unless and until people understand the implications of what a Parliamentary democracy is, what it does and why what Parliament is doing is 100% correct I need to keep saying it.

When people understand and accept then there will be no need.

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Of course they are but they pass the duty to make decisions to their elected representatives at every GE.

Our job is to choose who represents us. Their job is to do that until we choose someone else.

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'Johnson's an election winner'

He won in London - twice, not really a blue hot bed.

But what those rebels have told Brussels, is that you can screw us right royally because there is now way in the world we will allow a no deal brexit, w hich would be disastrous for both Britain and Europe.