Awful man, always has been.
Lucky for you you don't live here then

The voting paper said remain or leave.....nothing about a deal!!

Well so much for Johnson's coup he wants a GE Corbyn doesn't I thought coup leaders were against democracy? Odd that Corbyn has spent the last 3 years demanding a GE now he has cold feet.

"What do we want? A general election"
"When do we want it? Well not quite now cos we might lose it"

The excuse that Johnson might change the GE date after Parliament is prorogued is just that. I am confident that the date can be put into the vote that Parliament passes. Additionally The Squeaker sorry I mean Speaker could write to HM on behalf of the house stating the approval is only given for that date. If Boris then tried to change the date not only would he have to face HM he would be eviscerated at the GE by the voters including me.

It's not going to happen.

One more point

To you maybe. I thought that he was self assured and made his points quite well and "Corbyn's Surrender Bill" is a phrase that could be used quite a bit in the near future

Agreed. This fight has been going on within the Tory party for decades sooner or later it had to be dealt with. Johnson loses nothing by expelling the malcontents in fact it shows him as strong.

At the GE some of these may stand as independent Tory or for another party. I always feel that some MP's overstate their standing with the voters and are not as beloved as they like to think.

If the rebels win Johnson is no worse off than now.
If the vote is split and Labour / Lib Dem win he is still no worse off.
If the official Tory candidate wins then he gains a supporter.

As For Sir Nicholas Soames "Never have I seen so much rubbish written by so many" First off Churchill spent a good part of his career flip flopping between the Tories and the Liberals he was not a "loyal" Tory. Secondly so what if Soames is his grandson is that how we run things now?

It's unfortunate that it has come to this but the vast majority of the party members and the voters support leaving. The rebels are the ones out of step with the party they could have supported the government and continued the fight post Brexit but they chose not to and so most accept the consequences.

This is a fight Theresa May ducked as did Major and many of the other Tory leaders. Credit to Johnson for grasping the nettle.

Edited by Badger11 (04 Sep 2019 8.15am)

One more point

Grow up. Voters based their decisions on the information available, mostly provided by the official campaigns.