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The Dolphin Flag 10 Oct 23 6.52am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Finally. We might not have prosecutions. The money might not be recovered. BUT, we might get somewhere near the truth of how people rode the gravy train to the Cost of Living Crisis.

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"A Labour government would create an anti-corruption commissioner to recoup billions of pounds lost to fraud and waste during the Covid pandemic, the party has announced.

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves will set out the plan in her speech to Labour's conference on Monday.

She is expected to put the cost to the taxpayer of Covid fraud at £7.2bn." (BBC website)

we can but hope.

The odd headline prosecution maybe but other than that, this is a headline that will achieve nothing financially - it will cost more than the money back.


 

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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Oct 23 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 13 Oct 23 11.02pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Whenever a link to a video is posted here from a source that’s unknown to me the first thing I do is try to learn a little about the source.

“DomDocuments” is such a source. He posts on “X”. There is quite a lot and rarely, if ever, have I seen quite so many anti-Semitic conspiracy theories in one place, alongside other conspiracy theories. Some of the conclusions are ludicrous.

I won’t be taking anything he says seriously as a result.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 13 Oct 23 11.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I would agree that this guy is probably pretty anti semitic.

Not this video however.

But as expected deflection and excuse rather than dealing with the rather uncomfortable point made.

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Oct 2023 11.16pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Oct 23 9.15am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Someone who promotes weird, unpleasant and universally discredited ideas on a subject in videos, makes a video promoting equally weird and discredited ideas on another subject.

Do you regard these weird and discredited ideas at face value? Regard them with suspicion? Or disregard them completely on the basis they are discredited?

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Oct 23 9.57am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The truth is that most of the medical profession supported smoking until it became culturally uncomfortable to do so. The first journals raising concerns on the harm of smoking weren't the consensus and a lot of industry money was used suppressing and ridiculing those raising concerns.....As a result smoking continued unabated for many years afterwards without the proper appropriate warnings.

The medical profession are human and no different to any other. They pay their rent and mortgages like any other.

What was presented here was just the truth of what happened.

It is a disservice to the truth to pretend otherwise.

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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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eaglesdare Flag 14 Oct 23 11.30am Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The truth is that most of the medical profession supported smoking until it became culturally uncomfortable to do so. The first journals raising concerns on the harm of smoking weren't the consensus and a lot of industry money was used suppressing and ridiculing those raising concerns.....As a result smoking continued unabated for many years afterwards without the proper appropriate warnings.

The medical profession are human and no different to any other. They pay their rent and mortgages like any other.

What was presented here was just the truth of what happened.

It is a disservice to the truth to pretend otherwise.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2023 10.00am)


Google Ignac Semmelweis. His ideas and observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community.

He found that there was a reduced mortality in hospitals due to hand-washing. He was laughed and ridiculed by his peers.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Oct 23 11.59am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by eaglesdare

Google Ignac Semmelweis. His ideas and observations conflicted with the established scientific and medical opinions of the time and his ideas were rejected by the medical community.

He found that there was a reduced mortality in hospitals due to hand-washing. He was laughed and ridiculed by his peers.

Quite.

Committed to an asylum by colleagues and died soon after...probably from the after effects of a beating...dying years before being vindicated.

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 14 Oct 23 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Media coverage of the Inquiry
"WhatsApp messages from 2020 released by the Covid inquiry have revealed senior civil servant Simon Case complaining about the influence of Carrie, the partner of then-PM Boris Johnson.

In exchanges with a Downing Street adviser at the time, Dominic Cummings, Mr Case jokes that Mrs Johnson was "the real person in charge".

In a later text Mr Case also says the government looks like a "tragic joke".

The messages came as the Covid inquiry heard evidence on political governance." (BBC website)

See the attitude to Governance that our leaders had during a national/global crisis

And in further Covid-shaming,.....

"Police have made referrals for 24 fixed penalty notices for people who attended a Christmas party at Conservative Party HQ in 2020, for breaching Covid rules.
The event was held for Tory activists involved in Shaun Bailey's unsuccessful campaign to become London mayor.
Lord Bailey has previously apologised for the gathering, at which people were invited to "jingle and mingle", while indoor socialising was banned.

In June, Lord Bailey, who was given a peerage in Boris Johnson's resignation honours list, apologised "unreservedly" for the 14 December event, describing it as a "serious error of judgement". (BBC website)

I just feel like the pl55 has been taken massively with this, and we haven't even reached the Covid contracts debacle.

Edited by Forest Hillbilly (14 Oct 2023 12.59pm)

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Oct 23 3.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Labour lose quite heavily in New Zealand and the Cuckservatives take over.

Probably a price for one of the worst lockdowns and its repercussions.

 


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'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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eaglesdare Flag 27 Oct 23 2.35pm Send a Private Message to eaglesdare Add eaglesdare as a friend

FDA says getting Covid shot on same day as certain flu vaccines may raise risk of strokes in elderly people - while children aged 2-5 slightly more likely to suffer seizures after a coronavirus vaccine

 

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