Indeed. I recall of all people Bob Geldof telling Americans back in the 1980s (I think) that those that contributed to the 'Cause' were no more Irish than the Black man/woman who claimed to be 'African American'
Having lived here a number of years I have had people say to me that they are Italian, Polish,Irish, African,Cuban etc American and at a push If their parents or come to that Grandparents emigrated to the USA I can accept that.
I even had one cretin say to me one day when I worked in a Midtown bar that he was Cornish American (It wasn't Wisbech by the way) such was his hatred of the English (not British I hasten to add)
The reason in my opinion that there is so much division as that it is primarily stirred up by those who profit from it.

Pro USA & Israel

Slavery has been around as long as humans have.

Are you seriously trying to blame the North American slave industry on black people? Haha, you do me make laugh, Stirly. I am glad you are back from your brief hiatus to a different site, but tell me, why did you leave there and return to these hallowed pages? I digress.

It was in fact the Portuguese in the 16th century who first engaged in the Atlantic slave trade.

So lets recap Stirly's brief history of the North American slave trade.

1 - Black people caught a load of black people in Africa
2 - They sent some telegrams to largely unwilling white American's seeing if they wanted a "piece of the pie"
3 - The white heroes were begrudgingly roped into executing one of the most heinous examples of human trafficking and enslavement in modern history (not their fault though!)
4 - It was all the brain child of those dastardly Africans selling other Africans, and the master race of whites were simply unwitting victims too of these criminal masterminds and their dastardly scheme to flood American cotton plantations with black slaves

If we are playing the blame game for black slaves coming to America, I am afraid that old whitey is in the hot seat there, old chap. Not much you can do about that one I am afraid, save for rewriting history. Black people were involved in the North American slave industry, but whitey is the prime culprit for this insult to humanity.

The general thrust of what you are saying is that human beings tend to display their natures on a regular basis, which is certainly true.

What you seem to like to do, is try to point out specific examples which fit your narrative, which seems to be, that white people (as a distinct group) have never done anything bad, inhumane, wrong, disgusting, reprehensible, cowardly or downright evil.

I am here to tell you that this is wrong.

People of all colors do all kind of s***. White people are no better, or worse, than any other particular skin tone, but they have been the architects of some of the most f***ed up s*** in modern history.

Anyway, isnt this threat about 1 term president, little Donny Dump, whose chief "lawyer" Rudy got owned in court on Friday and had to admit there was no fraud at all. What a sad little joke Trump is now, careening into irrelevancy. There is an example of a white person who is a huge t***.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

We should all check our wardrobes

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Accidentally bought a slave? So easily done. One minute you have an empty ship, the next you have a cupboard full.

Never mind, I am sure you can part exchange for a Great Dane.

Or his cell phone for some of the battery parts.

Pro USA & Israel

Whites 'have been the architects of some of the most f***ed up s*** in modern history.'?

Well, if they were responsible for your education Mainey you might be half right.

However, I will deal with your main point.

'Are you seriously trying to blame the North American slave industry on black people?'?

No you see Mainey I'm the one saying that it's a nonsense to blame black or white for it. The ancestors of all involved were to blame. However, in your original post you wanted to focus blame for slavery on whites....even though the African and Arab involvement in slavery lasted far far longer (and still goes on) than the 300 years that Europeans profited from it before the British spent considerable money eradicating it from their empire.

You try to make the claim that I was saying whites have no blame.....which I didn't say. The elites who profited from slavery certainly did commit crimes from our modern perspective.....though focusing upon only one set of people judging from eras where slavery operated worldwide is unbalanced and is part of your obvious indoctrination Mainey.

You mention that Africans were bought to Americas....Yes, they were...it was wrong and never should have happened.....Slavery is a terrible crime. However, they were allowed to breed, unlike in Arab lands where the males were castrated....that's why you don't see large African populations there.

Also blacks in the US today are the richest most educated blacks in the world. There has been nothing stopping them from returning to Africa, yet few do....instead they have a legion of self hating whites feeding them nonsense about oppression and making laws to favour them over other groups.....All for votes and virtue signalling.

Funny isn't it.....The Arabs don't suffer any of this crap yet I get to listen to lefty whites with heads full of indoctrination and altered histories.

The reason the narrative is about 'whites' being the evil enforcers of slavery is because it's used to justify a grievance and diversity industry in the west aimed at selling guilt for hard cash and what they call reverse racism.

But I know you will believe what you want to believe.....as you say, I'm all about whitewashing whites....so nothing to see here.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Nov 2020 12.01am)

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