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Portuguese Flag Porto 09 Jun 17 9.25am Send a Private Message to Portuguese Add Portuguese as a friend

Sometimes I wonder if we're all focus in doing what's the best for Palace or some of us put their bets in first place! If it isn't let me tell you it seems so...
All the artificial fuss around Dyche feed by the press it's a clear example of that.

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fozzaisere Flag 09 Jun 17 9.31am Send a Private Message to fozzaisere Add fozzaisere as a friend

Originally posted by Portuguese

Sometimes I wonder if we're all focus in doing what's the best for Palace or some of us put their bets in first place! If it isn't let me tell you it seems so...
All the artificial fuss around Dyche feed by the press it's a clear example of that.

COYP

Who do you actually want to manage palace?

You keep spouting rhetoric about Dyche but if your for say Pellegrino have you even followed his career or watched any of his teams?

 

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fozzaisere Flag 09 Jun 17 9.43am Send a Private Message to fozzaisere Add fozzaisere as a friend

In fact for anyone who isn't aware lets take you through Mauricio Pellegrino's record as a manager;

Sacked at Valencia - Not going to knock him too much for this because it's been well documented that they have been a disaster for quite a while.

Estudiantes - Got sacked after two years - didn't exactly pull up any trees.

Independiente - slightly better record but didn't do anything momentous and only stayed there for a year.

Alaves - finished 9th and got to a cup final - great achievement and it's this alone that persuades me that he's the best man for the job (having watched quite a few games of their's this season I have been impressed).

HOWEVER;

those that are negative in the Dyche camp and pro Pellegrino need to look at this objectively and realise that there isn't really much between them.

 

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Portuguese Flag Porto 09 Jun 17 9.48am Send a Private Message to Portuguese Add Portuguese as a friend

Originally posted by fozzaisere

Who do you actually want to manage palace?

You keep spouting rhetoric about Dyche but if your for say Pellegrino have you even followed his career or watched any of his teams?

If it was realistic Tuchel, Roger Schmidt, Pellegrino in this order. Of course there's lots of issues that influence the decision so I don't have one name only.
Even Jakonovic or Jaap Stam I would take in account.
After those years with Burnley why Dyche wasn't pick by teams as Southampton, Everton or Hammers which had higher objectives???
It's to short for argument simply saying Dyche's a safe choice...

Edited by Portuguese (09 Jun 2017 9.57am)

 


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fozzaisere Flag 09 Jun 17 9.56am Send a Private Message to fozzaisere Add fozzaisere as a friend

Originally posted by Portuguese

If it was realistic Tuchel, Roger Schmidt, Pellegrino in this order. Of course there's lots of issues that influence the decision so I don't have one name only.
Even Jakonovic or Jaap Stam I would take in account.
After those years with Burnley why Dyche wasn't pick by teams as Southampton, Everton or Hammers wich had higher objectives???
It's to short saying Dyche's a safe choice...

Edited by Portuguese (09 Jun 2017 9.49am)

We have got absolutely no chance of appointing Tuchel and anyone that believes we have is delusional. Schmidt - I have not really watched much of Bayer so not sure if they have improved under him. However I believe his english isn't great which instantly becomes an issue.

I just don't get the vast negatives against Dyche. He's often on radio 5 live and having listened to him debate about football he speaks a huge amount of sense.

Yes his away record is horrific but how much of that is due to the make up of his squad? I have not got totals for his away form in the championship but assuming it's far better.

You can counter this by saying his home form is superb (one thing we have really struggled with in last few years) if he can marry the two together then we will shoot up the table.

 

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Portuguese Flag Porto 09 Jun 17 10.07am Send a Private Message to Portuguese Add Portuguese as a friend

Originally posted by fozzaisere

We have got absolutely no chance of appointing Tuchel and anyone that believes we have is delusional. Schmidt - I have not really watched much of Bayer so not sure if they have improved under him. However I believe his english isn't great which instantly becomes an issue.

I just don't get the vast negatives against Dyche. He's often on radio 5 live and having listened to him debate about football he speaks a huge amount of sense.

Yes his away record is horrific but how much of that is due to the make up of his squad? I have not got totals for his away form in the championship but assuming it's far better.

You can counter this by saying his home form is superb (one thing we have really struggled with in last few years) if he can marry the two together then we will shoot up the table.

I understand yours perspective. There's plenty of managers saying things that makes sense. But in top of that is how you translate that to the field. How able you're to make a team being better then just the sum of the parts. Plus factor that makes the difference. I agree that Pellegrino until now becomes short in what I just said.


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Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 09 Jun 17 10.17am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

I'm a bit fed up with all this. I put £20 on Dyche at 9-4 about a week ago and he is now 1-5 ! Come on out us out of our misery.

Cash out then.

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 09 Jun 17 10.23am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Cash out then.

I am guessing/ hoping that there will be an announcement early next week. If it really is a case of Pellegrino or Dyche, I wouldnt mind either of them, and hopefully either of them would work with Lee. Time to get on to transfers under a new manager!

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Tez Flag Epsom 09 Jun 17 10.55am Send a Private Message to Tez Add Tez as a friend

Gary Monk has been offered the Boro job and likely to accept.

 

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Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 09 Jun 17 11.04am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by fozzaisere
You can counter this by saying his home form is superb (one thing we have really struggled with in last few years) if he can marry the two together then we will shoot up the table.

Yes, but if you marry them together the wrong way we will disappear into oblivion

 

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bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 09 Jun 17 11.09am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

Yes, but if you marry them together the wrong way we will disappear into oblivion

That is a very good point. My concern is that, if appointed, he tries to impose his favoured system (4-4-2) on us regardless of the circumstances and I can't really see either Townsend or Zaha "tucking in tight" or Benteke "running around like a blue-arsed fly".

 


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Slutsky has been appointed Hull Manager

 

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