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cryrst The garden of England 02 Sep 19 3.11pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 JC could win an election on a remain ticket. It would also rule out more referendums. The polls pretty constant with remain at 56%. I would think the fear of a corbyn and his marxist crew in charge trumps the brexit or not debate.
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cryrst

The garden of England 02 Sep 19 3.11pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

JC could win an election on a remain ticket.

It would also rule out more referendums.

The polls pretty constant with remain at 56%.

I would think the fear of a corbyn and his marxist crew in charge trumps the brexit or not debate.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Sep 19 3.13pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 JC could win an election on a remain ticket. It would also rule out more referendums. The polls pretty constant with remain at 56%. But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ? Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Sep 19 3.13pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

JC could win an election on a remain ticket.

It would also rule out more referendums.

The polls pretty constant with remain at 56%.

But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ?

Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum.

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steeleye20 Croydon 02 Sep 19 3.21pm
Originally posted by Willo But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ? Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum. To qualify that, I think if only a no-deal is available, then he will go remain. But I may be a MOTD pundit, in which case ignore.
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steeleye20

Croydon 02 Sep 19 3.21pm

Originally posted by Willo

But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ?

Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum.

To qualify that, I think if only a no-deal is available, then he will go remain.

But I may be a MOTD pundit, in which case ignore.

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Charlie Croker Hampshire 02 Sep 19 3.25pm
Originally posted by W12 Final deal 32% No Deal 34% Remain 36% Then what happens? Then we need an investigation into where the other 2% has appeared from “My experience of life is that it is not divided up into genres; it’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you’re lucky."
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Originally posted by W12

Final deal 32%
No Deal 34%
Remain 36%

Then what happens?

Then we need an investigation into where the other 2% has appeared from

“My experience of life is that it is not divided up into genres; it’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you’re lucky."

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W12 02 Sep 19 3.33pm
Originally posted by Charlie Croker Then we need an investigation into where the other 2% has appeared from I put it down to multi-tasking. Anyway, clearly 3 options wouldn't work. The only only possible option is no deal versus whatever deal Boris comes up with but it's not a good idea as apart from anything else that requires another extension. Got to leave now.
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W12 02 Sep 19 3.33pm

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Then we need an investigation into where the other 2% has appeared from

I put it down to multi-tasking.

Anyway, clearly 3 options wouldn't work.

The only only possible option is no deal versus whatever deal Boris comes up with but it's not a good idea as apart from anything else that requires another extension. Got to leave now.

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Invalid user 2019 02 Sep 19 3.36pm
Originally posted by furrybloke 2 string question, not saying I have every answer. Leave/Remain Deal/No deal Let the people make the choice now you have seen the deal & heard the arguments. A second referendum has to be the least likely scenario going forward. It isn't going to happen. Edited by dollardays (02 Sep 2019 3.36pm)
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02 Sep 19 3.36pm

Originally posted by furrybloke

2 string question, not saying I have every answer.

Leave/Remain
Deal/No deal

Let the people make the choice now you have seen the deal & heard the arguments.

A second referendum has to be the least likely scenario going forward. It isn't going to happen.

Edited by dollardays (02 Sep 2019 3.36pm)

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Badger11 Beckenham 02 Sep 19 3.42pm
Originally posted by furrybloke 2 string question, not saying I have every answer. Leave/Remain Deal/No deal Let the people make the choice now you have seen the deal & heard the arguments. Okay but the Electoral Commission has previously ruled out this type of multiple choice question as too confusing. As they approve the "question" my understanding is that it will have to binary. Now bearing in mind that people complained about the binary question asked in 2016 I think you can multiple those complaints for this type of question. What happens if someone votes Remain and No Deal. I get your frustration it's messy which is why we are where we are today. Edited by Badger11 (02 Sep 2019 3.44pm) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 02 Sep 19 3.42pm

Originally posted by furrybloke

2 string question, not saying I have every answer.

Leave/Remain
Deal/No deal

Let the people make the choice now you have seen the deal & heard the arguments.

Okay but the Electoral Commission has previously ruled out this type of multiple choice question as too confusing. As they approve the "question" my understanding is that it will have to binary.

Now bearing in mind that people complained about the binary question asked in 2016 I think you can multiple those complaints for this type of question.

What happens if someone votes Remain and No Deal.

I get your frustration it's messy which is why we are where we are today.

Edited by Badger11 (02 Sep 2019 3.44pm)

One more point

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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Sep 19 3.51pm
Originally posted by Willo But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ? Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum. If Corbyn said that the Sun will rise in the morning I wouldn't believe him. Mans a loser & a loony. Pro USA & Israel
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SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 02 Sep 19 3.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

But hasn't JC always wittered on about respecting the result of the referendum, a referendum which 'Leave' won ?

Apropos the polls, they had Remain winning the referendum.

If Corbyn said that the Sun will rise in the morning I wouldn't believe him. Mans a loser & a loony.

Pro USA & Israel

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Invalid user 2019 02 Sep 19 4.00pm
Originally posted by Jimenez If Corbyn said that the Sun will rise in the morning I wouldn't believe him. Mans a loser & a loony. You're not alone in that view, Jimenez. Is Jeremy Corbyn doing well or badly? 13% Well 72% Badly Net -59% Source: @YouGov I always figured that there was maybe a 30% minimum level where people basically support any leader for the sake of party allegiance. Corbyn is confounding understood norms with his ineptitude and unpopularity .
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02 Sep 19 4.00pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

If Corbyn said that the Sun will rise in the morning I wouldn't believe him. Mans a loser & a loony.

You're not alone in that view, Jimenez.

Is Jeremy Corbyn doing well or badly?
13% Well
72% Badly
Net -59%

Source: @YouGov

I always figured that there was maybe a 30% minimum level where people basically support any leader for the sake of party allegiance. Corbyn is confounding understood norms with his ineptitude and unpopularity .

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 4.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I disagree. It is abundantly clear that the balance of opinion in Parliament is against a no deal Brexit. I don't think Corbyn will decide this, and certainly hope not. I think Blair is right and agreeing to an election would be falling into a trap set by Johnson's strategists. I hope wiser heads in the shadow cabinet and behind the scenes will restrain Corbyn's instincts and personal ambitions. Our sovereignty has never been, and remains, under any kind of threat by being a member of the EU. That's just yet another anti-EU myth. Governments have set the timetable only by conventions granted to them by Parliament. If they abuse that gift then it will be removed from them. If an executive seeks to establish sovereignty over Parliament then it will be treated like the naughty child it seeks to mimic and probably given a "time out". Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant.. Just as a popint of interest Wisbech what would be your solution to this mess??
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The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 4.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I disagree. It is abundantly clear that the balance of opinion in Parliament is against a no deal Brexit.

I don't think Corbyn will decide this, and certainly hope not. I think Blair is right and agreeing to an election would be falling into a trap set by Johnson's strategists. I hope wiser heads in the shadow cabinet and behind the scenes will restrain Corbyn's instincts and personal ambitions.

Our sovereignty has never been, and remains, under any kind of threat by being a member of the EU. That's just yet another anti-EU myth.

Governments have set the timetable only by conventions granted to them by Parliament. If they abuse that gift then it will be removed from them. If an executive seeks to establish sovereignty over Parliament then it will be treated like the naughty child it seeks to mimic and probably given a "time out".

Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant..
Just as a popint of interest Wisbech what would be your solution to this mess??

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 4.11pm
Originally posted by the silurian Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant.. Just as a point of interest Wisbech what would be your solution to this mess?? Also wisbech, lets assume there was another referendum and leave 'won' again, then what would your excuse be?
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the silurian

The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 4.11pm

Originally posted by the silurian

Blair is a criminal and should be seen as such and tried for 'war crimes" As such his thoughts are irrelevant..
Just as a point of interest Wisbech what would be your solution to this mess??

Also wisbech, lets assume there was another referendum and leave 'won' again, then what would your excuse be?

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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 02 Sep 19 4.12pm
Originally posted by the silurian . Edited by the silurian (02 Sep 2019 4.12pm)
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