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 Teddy Eagle  05 Oct 23 10.56pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all. He makes some interesting points. It’s the headline that Spiked put above it which is criticised as it is not what the article says. No article could possibly reach that conclusion with any degree of certainty. That’s why we are having the enquiry. It’s far too complex for any individual, whatever their experience, to be certain about. Indeed I am not sure we will get a definitive answer from the enquiry. More probably a range of options and recommended questions to be determined before one is chosen. Just four years then. It'll be thorough anyway.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 05 Oct 23 11.11pm |
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Like any enquiry, it will be thorough and expensive. People will be extremely careful with their language to swerve culpability and assure any decisions were of a group think, and not an individual. Going through the motions, another vague set of conclusions, and lots of money spent. We will 'learn' nothing. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (07 Oct 2023 10.48am)
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Stirlingsays  06 Oct 23 6.40am |
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It's always been an oxymoron.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 23 6.44am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Like any enquiry, it will be thorough and expensive. People will be extremely careful with their language to swerve culpability and assure any decisions were of a group think, and not and individual. Going through the motions, another vague set of conclusions, and lots of money spent. We will 'learn' nothing. The liberal elites will come to liberal elite conclusions. I have no faith in them.
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| eaglesdare 07 Oct 23 4.18pm |
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I see a lot of people are collapsing lately....no coincidence at all that it is around the latest booster rollout. Edited by eaglesdare (07 Oct 2023 4.21pm)
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Oct 23 7.58am |
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Finally. We might not have prosecutions. The money might not be recovered. BUT, we might get somewhere near the truth of how people rode the gravy train to the Cost of Living Crisis. "A Labour government would create an anti-corruption commissioner to recoup billions of pounds lost to fraud and waste during the Covid pandemic, the party has announced. Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves will set out the plan in her speech to Labour's conference on Monday. She is expected to put the cost to the taxpayer of Covid fraud at £7.2bn." (BBC website) we can but hope.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Oct 23 8.07am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Finally. We might not have prosecutions. The money might not be recovered. BUT, we might get somewhere near the truth of how people rode the gravy train to the Cost of Living Crisis. "A Labour government would create an anti-corruption commissioner to recoup billions of pounds lost to fraud and waste during the Covid pandemic, the party has announced. Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves will set out the plan in her speech to Labour's conference on Monday. She is expected to put the cost to the taxpayer of Covid fraud at £7.2bn." (BBC website) we can but hope. Labour were complicit....signed off on everything and wanted it to go deeper. They talk more b0llocks than a used car salesman.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 09 Oct 23 8.30am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Finally. We might not have prosecutions. The money might not be recovered. BUT, we might get somewhere near the truth of how people rode the gravy train to the Cost of Living Crisis. "A Labour government would create an anti-corruption commissioner to recoup billions of pounds lost to fraud and waste during the Covid pandemic, the party has announced. Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves will set out the plan in her speech to Labour's conference on Monday. She is expected to put the cost to the taxpayer of Covid fraud at £7.2bn." (BBC website) we can but hope. Sure I think we all want our 7bn back but if it was that easy why hasn't the government done it. I suspect most of the fraud was done by people setting up dummy companies and they are long gone or even out of the reach of the UK. I said at the time the scheme was announced that there would be widespread fraud only for someone on here to take me to task about how it couldn't possible happen. I can't remember who that was was but obviously someone with more faith in our government than me. So go Labour happy to applaud you if you can get it back but I doubt it. My cynical guess? The costs of the Labour fraud squad will outweigh the recovered money. Edited by Badger11 (09 Oct 2023 8.31am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 09 Oct 23 8.59am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Finally. We might not have prosecutions. The money might not be recovered. BUT, we might get somewhere near the truth of how people rode the gravy train to the Cost of Living Crisis. "A Labour government would create an anti-corruption commissioner to recoup billions of pounds lost to fraud and waste during the Covid pandemic, the party has announced. Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves will set out the plan in her speech to Labour's conference on Monday. She is expected to put the cost to the taxpayer of Covid fraud at £7.2bn." (BBC website) we can but hope. Discovering the truth is probably the best that can be expected. There will always be unscrupulous prepared to exploit a crisis as long as greed exists and people prepared to do business with them. Black market traders did ok in WW2. We faced a crisis with the unknown scale of the pandemic so the need to cut corners, avoid red tape and get the job done was attractive to those taking decisions. Condemning those who tried to genuinely help is pointless and will disincentivise in the future. So we need to be careful to single out the rogues and not target the heroes.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 09 Oct 23 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Discovering the truth is probably the best that can be expected. There will always be unscrupulous prepared to exploit a crisis as long as greed exists and people prepared to do business with them. Black market traders did ok in WW2. We faced a crisis with the unknown scale of the pandemic so the need to cut corners, avoid red tape and get the job done was attractive to those taking decisions. Condemning those who tried to genuinely help is pointless and will disincentivise in the future. So we need to be careful to single out the rogues and not target the heroes. Have faith in the justice system. It is meant to be devoid of politics, so let the system do what it does best.
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 SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 09 Oct 23 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by eaglesdare
I see a lot of people are collapsing lately....no coincidence at all that it is around the latest booster rollout. Edited by eaglesdare (07 Oct 2023 4.21pm) How very scientific. What rigorously researched delights do you have to share on this unseasonably warm autumn eve?
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| eaglesdare 09 Oct 23 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
How very scientific. What rigorously researched delights do you have to share on this unseasonably warm autumn eve? Nothing at all. Just an observation
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