It was always gonna happen one day

Good post Nick, and not one mention of Saucy-Minx

and this brings us nicely back to the beginning of the thread.

having read the entire thread again, there are not too many questions that have gone unanswered and there have beenvery interesting answers.

i've learnt a lot about both sides of the argument. it is fairly obvious that both sides require a arge proportion of faith and that neither side holds all of the answers.

however, if your belief makes you happy and suits you best then so be it. as long as you can then accept the views of others and hold a rational debate then there are no problems.

so well done Rach for starting an interesting thread and thanks to all (but one) of the posters who have made this thread so interesting.

I'm a Christian. Really good website for people who do want to look into the Christian faith is:

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I'll try and attempt to answer questions too but I'm not very good at it and get myself into a muddle! However, I believe:

That Jesus was real, he existed, he performed miracles and he died so that we could all have eternal life in heaven.

I believe in God as the creator of the world and all things in it. He created everything perfectly and we're the ones that spoilt it.

I believe in the Holy Spirit as God's representative on earth. I believe that people can feel it's power.

I believe the Bible is a book of truth and the fundamental points cannot be interpreted.

I belive that all humans are sinful but we can be forgiven if we ask for it.

I believe that we all have free will and that we have a choice in everything we do whether its a good or bad choice.

I believe also that it's not God who's turned 'his' back on the world it's people that have turned their back on 'him'.

I cannot believe that we are here by chance and that my life has no meaning but to exist and then die. The earth was created on the perfect angle for life to exist. That cannot be by chance surely??

By the way, I still have questions to ask. I'm not perfect.

Edited by tinkerbell85 (09 Jan 2005 3:08pm)

Edited by tinkerbell85 (09 Jan 2005 3:09pm)

Completely agree with all that Becky!

A couple of people have mentioned about not having free-will any more if you're a Christian, but that's not true. Yes, there are rules to follow, but only ones that are there for our own good, and I can still choose to go against those rules.
Think about a loving parent setting rules down for their child. The child may think the rules are completely unfair and are stopping all their fun, but the parent is only thinking of the best for the child. The child can disobey those rules - and the parent will still love them - but if a child loves and respects their parents they'll try their best to follow the rules.
That's how it is with God and me.
I try to do what I know God wants - and fail a lot - but know his love for me doesn't change whatever.