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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 5.19pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

you are correct. I have been accepted as English many times. Yet am steadfastly Irish. Similar to many Scots & Welsh......you do not need to be wearing a kilt or swinging a club to be a Celt.

my 3 requirements to being English : a. the locals recognise you as such, b. you want to identify as such.....and c. its nice to have a bit of a DNA match too. Although, like the Dutch Val Tulleken brothers, or the French DNA of Jean Jacques Burnel, you can look the part and get away with it, very often. When you look & talk like a Nigel, people will accept you as the same.


And when your look is imported, people will mostly politely enquire and will go along with whatever answer you want. So Ian Wright & Clinton Morrison will answer England and Ireland, respectively. And nobody bats an eyelid when they don the National shirt for football.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (19 Jun 2024 1.07pm)

But if you chose to identify as English no one would either know or question it. You have decided not to. Your choice.

We English are a very diverse people nowadays, coming from a large number of genetic origins. Culture is what binds us. Not genetics. Just look at the England football team. Does anyone want to try to point out to Southgate that some of his best players aren't actually English because of their genecity?

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 19 Jun 24 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Just watched thousands of Scotland fans sing their hearts out, according to our quarter French troll it amounts to nothing as they're British & anything deeper than feelings doesn't exist.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2024 8.03pm)

 


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The groover Flag Danbury 19 Jun 24 8.09pm Send a Private Message to The groover Add The groover as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Just watched thousands of Scotland fans sing their hearts out, according to our quarter French troll it amounts to nothing as they're British & anything deeper than feelings doesn't exist.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2024 8.03pm)

It was impressive.

 

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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 19 Jun 24 8.28pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by The groover

It was impressive.

Scottish fans are a credit to this tournament.

Sadly according to one sole person on this forum the Celt in them has been bred out of them to such a point that it's no longer relevant.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2024 8.30pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Just watched thousands of Scotland fans sing their hearts out, according to our quarter French troll it amounts to nothing as they're British & anything deeper than feelings doesn't exist.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2024 8.03pm)

Don’t be silly. They all identify as Scottish. Whether they would all qualify genetically or not, who knows or cares?

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 9.07pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

Scottish fans are a credit to this tournament.

Sadly according to one sole person on this forum the Celt in them has been bred out of them to such a point that it's no longer relevant.

Edited by Ouzo Dan (19 Jun 2024 8.30pm)

I have read posts here before that spectacularly miss the point, but this one goes top of the list.

The “Celt in them” will vary person to person but plays no role about how they feel. That’s down to their upbringing and exposure to the culture. It’s acquired and not inbred. Swap a baby born to English parents with one born to Scots and they would both acquire the culture and identity of those they live with.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Jun 24 9.21pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Swap a baby born to English parents with one born to Scots and they would both acquire the culture and identity of those they live with.

one of those babies will never offer to buy a round of drinks.


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absent so far , on this thread, are all the foreign eejits who claim to be english, irish, or whatever........and they patently are not.

we have all met many of these, often living tens of thousands of miles away. Deluded looneys.

you get them in the USA, India, Japan and loads of places.

 


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Ouzo Dan Flag Behind you 19 Jun 24 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Ouzo Dan Add Ouzo Dan as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have read posts here before that spectacularly miss the point, but this one goes top of the list.

The “Celt in them” will vary person to person but plays no role about how they feel. That’s down to their upbringing and exposure to the culture. It’s acquired and not inbred. Swap a baby born to English parents with one born to Scots and they would both acquire the culture and identity of those they live with.

A donkey raised with horses is still a donkey.

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 19 Jun 24 9.50pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

''when a man is born in a stable, that does not make him a horse''

Duke of Wellington, on his irish origins.

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identity is complex. My favourite quote on the subject.

Josef Stalin speaking to Nadezhda Krupskaia.

"you behave yourself. Otherwise we will appoint another woman to be VI Lenin's widow" .......

.....and he fv.ckin meant it.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 19 Jun 24 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Ouzo Dan

A donkey raised with horses is still a donkey.

That one now goes top of the list!

An ape raised with humans would still be an ape.

A human baby raised with humans is a human.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 20 Jun 24 9.17am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That one now goes top of the list!

An ape raised with humans would still be an ape.

A human baby raised with humans is a human.

You claim to hate religion, and yet you live in this delusion of quasi religious ideology.

You argue around in circles because you want to stop others being 'wrong'.
Your endless self important drone will not change the reality of what is happening to this country.


 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Jun 24 12.32pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

one of those babies will never offer to buy a round of drinks.


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absent so far , on this thread, are all the foreign eejits who claim to be english, irish, or whatever........and they patently are not.

we have all met many of these, often living tens of thousands of miles away. Deluded looneys.

you get them in the USA, India, Japan and loads of places.

St Patrick's day and every US President just before the elections.

 


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