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 samprior  Hamburg 29 May 23 7.23pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I believe Potter over-complicates things and our squad are not players who would do well under him. He's also been undermined by being sh1t at Chelsea and by De Zerbi being better. Under De Zerbi they still play nice football but create better, simpler chances. This is my major reservation...Roy came in made things simple again and everyone prospered. For Potter to succeed we'd need to back him strongly in this window (with more of a strategy than Chelsea) for it to be a success.
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| silvertop Portishead 29 May 23 7.48pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I have not perused any such news today, out with my dear wife this morning and later watched Barnsley v Sheff Wed ! The ending reminded me of our play-off final against Leicester when Claridge scored in the dying embers of 'Extra Time' and seconds later the final whistle was blown. Edited by Willo (29 May 2023 6.53pm) The Shin of God goal. Hateful moment.
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| Pete53 Hassocks 29 May 23 7.54pm |
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Roy's post-match on the pitch speech yesterday was somewhat muted and suggested he doesn't know yet what will be happening.It was neither an outrightly emotional farewell speech nor was it a, "see you next season" one either.
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| PJEagle London 29 May 23 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
I am increasingly leaning to Graham Potter. He's young, been successful abroad and in the Championship with Swansea and is experienced in the PL. I can overlook the Chelseas stint as I doubt if anyone could do anything amidst the utter madness there. He is calm, intelligent and a good motivator - just what our younger players need. We need Hodgson-like stability now and no more experimenting with unproven ex-players like Vieira. Of the younger generation around he is the pick of the crop.
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| silvertop Portishead 29 May 23 7.55pm |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I think you're massively under playing Potters achievements at Brighton... Yes De Zerbi has clearly done a fantastic job but let's be real here he inherited a team already playing fantastically well, high in confidence and a group of quality players, the vast majority of which were recruited by Potter. I can look past the Chelsea stint. I think it's an absolute circus there. To many 'superstars' some of which I don't think he actually had a choice in signing and I don't think he was a big enough name for some of those players to play for. It's a no brainer for me and I'd take him in a heart beat. I think we will probably end up with Roy for another year though.. It's the cheap option and it would appear that our club have no ambition to try and push on to that next level so it's the safe option as well. Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (29 May 2023 7.23pm) I have an 'ambition' to buy a house in belgravia with a country place in the cornish Estuaries but, guess what... Your mode of ambition coupled with an absence of the resources to get us there = insolvency. We've been there and we don't want to go there again, thanks.
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| PJEagle London 29 May 23 7.59pm |
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Originally posted by PJEagle
I agree with the previous post. He did great things at Brighton, and whilst overwhelmed at Chelsea, Lampard arguably has done a lot worse. He's probably taken time out to relax and recover, probably knows a great deal of the vast reservoir of younger players at Chelsea, and has spending some time scouting for options
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| kennybrowns leftfoot Reigate 29 May 23 8.35pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
I have an 'ambition' to buy a house in belgravia with a country place in the cornish Estuaries but, guess what... Your mode of ambition coupled with an absence of the resources to get us there = insolvency. We've been there and we don't want to go there again, thanks. Going for a top 10 finish and possible Europa League place finish will end up in insolvency??... I'd say that ambition should be pretty standard for a club like us. There will always be people quite happy just treading water forever though. Can I just ask though that if being ambitious leads to insolvency and we've been their before as you say then how come on both occasions we went into administration we weren't even in The Premiership?
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| SarfNorwoodAl South Norwood 29 May 23 8.42pm |
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One R apologies. If Parish the poser decides to keep Roy on in a director of football role, the only manager I can see working with him would be Gerrard. He was captain when RH was England manager and may see him as a guidance. Other managers would see RH as a threat to their job so tell Parish to go forth and multiply. Potter ex Brighton and all his staff especially Bruno is a Brighton legend. Would cause some animosity with the fans.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 May 23 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
I think you're massively under playing Potters achievements at Brighton... Yes De Zerbi has clearly done a fantastic job but let's be real here he inherited a team already playing fantastically well, high in confidence and a group of quality players, the vast majority of which were recruited by Potter. I can look past the Chelsea stint. I think it's an absolute circus there. To many 'superstars' some of which I don't think he actually had a choice in signing and I don't think he was a big enough name for some of those players to play for. It's a no brainer for me and I'd take him in a heart beat. I think we will probably end up with Roy for another year though.. It's the cheap option and it would appear that our club have no ambition to try and push on to that next level so it's the safe option as well. Edited by kennybrowns leftfoot (29 May 2023 7.23pm) I'm pretty sure he's a good manager - my issue is more our squad. I believe that the tinkering and tactics Potter employ need a couple of relatively clever, precise footballers. What I see at Palace is a mixture of flair and some pace but I wouldn't call out players the most adaptable, or indeed the squad with the most footballing 'brains'. I believe both de Boer and Vieira went down the being too clever route, and I think Potter would be similar. Just an opinion of course. The other side of it is I'm not going to praise Brighton, of course.
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Lanzo-Ad  Lanzarote 29 May 23 9.01pm |
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Potter would be a massive disaster, a man with rigid tactics and a lack of variation in the way he sets up his team, we under Hodgson play with a freedom that would be as impossible under Potter as it was under Vieira, we are 2/3 players away from probably having the best team we have ever had, if it isn't broke dont f**k it up.
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| PJEagle London 29 May 23 10.25pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I'm pretty sure he's a good manager - my issue is more our squad. I believe that the tinkering and tactics Potter employ need a couple of relatively clever, precise footballers. What I see at Palace is a mixture of flair and some pace but I wouldn't call out players the most adaptable, or indeed the squad with the most footballing 'brains'. I believe both de Boer and Vieira went down the being too clever route, and I think Potter would be similar. Just an opinion of course. The other side of it is I'm not going to praise Brighton, of course.
We have smart bright adaptable players like Eze and Olise. A lot of very talented younger players coming through. We abviously need some good young strikers, but there are some reachable like Akpom or Gyokeres?
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| silvertop Portishead 29 May 23 10.45pm |
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Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot
Going for a top 10 finish and possible Europa League place finish will end up in insolvency??... I'd say that ambition should be pretty standard for a club like us. There will always be people quite happy just treading water forever though. Can I just ask though that if being ambitious leads to insolvency and we've been their before as you say then how come on both occasions we went into administration we weren't even in The Premiership? Look at those who thought the way you do and tried to spend their way to success. Look at the net spend of Leeds this season and wonder what will happen to their accounts next one. Want to swap? If blitzer and Harris want to dig deep then ok. But they have shown no indication. So we have to play smart withe the resourceswe have. It leaves us under constant risk but our position is sustainable. I want what you want too, but not at any price.
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