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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Mar 23 9.02am |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
I would imagine pretty much every PL team of any standing will have their own Video performance guys to analyse upcoming opponents strengths & weaknesses to put together plans to break down the opposition defence, Mitchell is in that situation because he remains a work in progress, teams pile down his flank & overload him, he will need to learn to be better in those situations just as his team mates ( especially the more experienced ones) will have to learn to help him out / come to his rescue occasionally - I believe that some would opine that he has not made any progress at all. Edited by Willo (07 Mar 2023 9.03am)
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| Dubai Eagle 07 Mar 23 9.30am |
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Indeed he has but thats 80 PL appearances in a Palace team, one that in itself seems to be struggling to find its identity & one that the midfield & its strengths of last season (to support the defence, win battles in the middle of the park & act as a springboard to attack) have this season been almost totally missing in action (with the exception of Decoure) So with respect its easy to point to his number of starts but in the context of what's going on around him during game time pretty much every day is a school day for him & several others Originally posted by Willo
I believe that some would opine that he has not made any progress at all. Edited by Willo (07 Mar 2023 9.03am)
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| southnorwoodhill 07 Mar 23 9.46am |
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I've said before: Mitchell has to play behind Zaha, a selfish individual whose loss of possession stats outdo any other Palace player. What is Mitchell supposed to do? Support the attack, make overlaps hoping that the pass will come? Sit back knowing that Zaha will inevitably lose the ball?
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| palace99 New Mills 07 Mar 23 10.12am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
His defending has got steadily worse over the last season. Ball watches and loses attackers way too easily. Also gets sucked into the middle and leaves the far post unmarked. I personally think he needs replacing, but maybe he just needs better coaching. i wonder if he has been told to do this. Ward always does it on the other side and a year or so ago a commentator mentioned it was a deliberate ploy to form a back 3 when Mitchell went forward - i thought it was just typical Wardie ball watching. Now Mitchell does it repeatedly. If it is a deliberate tactic it is clearly not working!
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| Dubai Eagle 07 Mar 23 10.16am |
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Probably a move that PV picked up during his playing days that works well if your at a top 6 club with world class players at your disposal slotting into every position, not so great at Palace - Originally posted by palace99
i wonder if he has been told to do this. Ward always does it on the other side and a year or so ago a commentator mentioned it was a deliberate ploy to form a back 3 when Mitchell went forward - i thought it was just typical Wardie ball watching. Now Mitchell does it repeatedly. If it is a deliberate tactic it is clearly not working!
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 07 Mar 23 10.39am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Steve (as that's obviously who you are) we are all grateful for saving the club and for what you've achieved in the last ten years but it's time for you to retire and for someone with deeper pockets to take over as we are currently only heading one way and that's back to The Championship for how many years have you been saying that we are heading back to the Championship, and how many times has it happened?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Mar 23 10.39am |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
Indeed he has but thats 80 PL appearances in a Palace team, one that in itself seems to be struggling to find its identity & one that the midfield & its strengths of last season (to support the defence, win battles in the middle of the park & act as a springboard to attack) have this season been almost totally missing in action (with the exception of Decoure) So with respect its easy to point to his number of starts but in the context of what's going on around him during game time pretty much every day is a school day for him & several others I totally understand your mindset in terms of 'Context', however Mitchell has been playing in a team that has finished in 14th and 12th place in the PL so not in a team that has been consistently abject and been cut adrift in the league. I am not totally dismissive of Mitchell and I hope he develops into a player of some aplomb, however, I do not believe he has made the progress that perhaps many had expected.Perhaps he will in the months ahead.
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| SwordFish Peasmarsh,East Sussex 07 Mar 23 11.00am |
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Originally posted by Willo
I totally understand your mindset in terms of 'Context', however Mitchell has been playing in a team that has finished in 14th and 12th place in the PL so not in a team that has been consistently abject and been cut adrift in the league. I am not totally dismissive of Mitchell and I hope he develops into a player of some aplomb, however, I do not believe he has made the progress that perhaps many had expected.Perhaps he will in the months ahead. If that poster the other day is correct and has “contacts” in club , Mitchell apparently is only there for the money and doing the bare minimum in training etc , however we have no other option in that position at present . But seems to make sense as his form has dropped dramatically
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| Eaglecoops CR3 07 Mar 23 11.05am |
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Originally posted by SwordFish
If that poster the other day is correct and has “contacts” in club , Mitchell apparently is only there for the money and doing the bare minimum in training etc , however we have no other option in that position at present . But seems to make sense as his form has dropped dramatically If this is in fact the case, I cannot understand why Adaramola or Hannam hasn’t been given an opportunity. Both are pretty decent in their own way and to be honest they can’t be much worse defensively surely.
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| Dubai Eagle 07 Mar 23 11.17am |
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I know Scott Guyett left a few months ago, I dont know who replaced him, but have there been other performance & monitoring coaches that have changed recently & if so does that provide any indication into the apparent drop in energy levels / work rate / distance readings that we are seeing recently.
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| Midlands Eagle 07 Mar 23 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
for how many years have you been saying that we are heading back to the Championship, and how many times has it happened? None prior to this one as far as I can recall. I think that you are confusing me with quite a few others
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 07 Mar 23 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
None prior to this one as far as I can recall. I think that you are confusing me with quite a few others Perhaps the poster is confusing you with 'Yours Truly' ! I have been a serial 'Elijah of Doom', predicting relegation season on season but I was a tad more optimistic about our prospects this campaign. Edited by Willo (07 Mar 2023 11.46am)
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